Template:Did you know nominations/Naren Chandra Das

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 22:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Naren Chandra Das

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* ... that Indian army havildar Naren Chandra Das escorted the 14th Dalai Lama to safety in India when the monk made a 13-day trek across the himalayas dressed as a soldier to evade the Chinese troops? Source: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/naren-chandra-das-the-last-indian-soldier-who-helped-dalai-lama-escape-has-died-2682054

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Catherine Cavagnaro

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 01:21, 2 January 2022 (UTC). * ALT1: ... that Indian army havildar Naren Chandra Das escorted the 14th Dalai Lama to safety in India when the monk made a 13-day trek across the himalayas, in disguise, to evade the Chinese troops? Source: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/naren-chandra-das-the-last-indian-soldier-who-helped-dalai-lama-escape-has-died-2682054

• • ALT2: ... that Indian army havildar Naren Chandra Das escorted the 14th Dalai Lama to safety in India after the monk made a 13-day trek across the himalayas dressed as a soldier to evade the Chinese troops? Source: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/naren-chandra-das-the-last-indian-soldier-who-helped-dalai-lama-escape-has-died-2682054
• I am beginning to review this one.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 10:41, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - ?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Was Das really directed to cross the International border as stated in the article? The phrase is not sourced and in the Times of India source it says they received him on Indian soil. I guess a source for Indian soldiers accompanying the Dalai Lama on the 13 day trek would be good.

Ktin how about something like... was part of the havildar group who welcomed the Dalai Lama at the Indian border after his 13 day long flight from the Chinese army?Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:10, 18 January 2022 (UTC) Paradise Chronicle (talk) 12:14, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

• @Paradise Chronicle:: Thanks for you review. I think we can go with ALT0. I am quoting from the NDTV article -- The Tibetan spiritual leader arrived in India as a young monk after a 13-day trek through the Himalayas disguised as a soldier to evade detection by Chinese troops. Naren Chandra Das, who died Monday at his residence in Assam, was 22 at the time and had just completed his training with the Assam Rifles, the Indian Army's oldest paramilitary force. Along with six other soldiers, he escorted the monk to Lumla in Arunachal Pradesh on March 31, 1959. I think this should be good to validate ALT0 as it is written. Please let me know of your thoughts. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 05:56, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
  • As to the sources I have access to, they didn't escort the Dalai Lama on his 13-day journey to India. They were only aware of the arrival of the Dalai Lama a few days before. The Assam Rifles welcomed him on Indian soil the same day he arrived and escorted him IN India.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for this note @Paradise Chronicle:. Pardon me if I am stating this incorrectly, I think that this is what ALT0 is suggesting, right? Happy to tweak the words if needed - the first part says that the escort was IN India. The second part refers to the overall journey as referenced in the NDTV link. Let me know. Ktin (talk) 20:19, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

• If we need to substitute the word 'when' with 'after', we can do that. Ktin (talk) 21:24, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

• Yeah but as to me, welcoming someone as one of several people is not notable enough for a hook compared to a hook on a 13-day trek/escape of the Dalai Lama. If you want to create an article on the escape let me know and I'll review it. I have actually caught some interest on the subject and would like to help creating such an article, reviewing this hook, I have read about the letter the Dalai Lama received which caused the escape, how Mao te Tung reacted to it, initially letting him go, then trying to prevent the escape etc. this I'd see as an article worth of a hook. What do you think?Paradise Chronicle (talk) 01:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

• I still think this is interesting. I would not characterize Das' actions as "welcomed" but more as "escorted to safety" which is what the WP:RS sources are suggesting. If you want to add any information, please do. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 02:07, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

• I have created an article on the Dalai Lama's escape from China now. Maybe we can think of a hook more interesting. I am thinking on a hook which includes the State Oracle or the crossing the Brahmaputra river before reaching India. What are your thoughtsParadise Chronicle (talk) 19:58, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

• I have adapted the hook as Ktin likes it, but now we need another reviewer who approves this.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks Paradise Chronicle. Much appreciated. Btw, nice work on getting that other article going! Looks promising! Ktin (talk) 22:51, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

• Reviewer still needed to check ALT2 hook. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:19, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

BlueMoonset But this should not be done by me, right?BlueMoonset Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Reviewed ALT2, length ok, agrees with source and above discussion. Consider adding link to Dalai Lama's escape from China. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 13:44, 15 February 2022 (UTC)