Template:Did you know nominations/Muhammad I of Granada
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:20, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
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Muhammad I of Granada
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Muhammad I and his Castilian ally
- ... that Muhammad I of Granada (pictured), founder of the last Muslim state in Spain, helped Castile take Córdoba and Seville from the Muslims?
- Reviewed: Riwŏn
5x expanded by HaEr48 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:01, 15 June 2017 (UTC).
Looks good, article was 5x expanded. I do not have access to the source book, but I will assume good faith. Malinaccier (talk) 17:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Malinaccier: You need to do a full review of the nomination with regard to all the DYK criteria. For example, the hook cannot be promoted while there are "clarification needed" tags in the article. What specific sentences with inline citations back up the hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:35, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: I did a full review. Let me guide you further. Per WP:DYKRULES an article must be new, long enough, have the hook cited, and be within policy (particularly meeting Verifiability, Living Person Biographies, Copyright, and NPOV). I think you are trying to say that this article is not "within policy." The "clarification needed" tags refer to vague statements in the text, not anything that is outside of policy. For example, "In 1252, Ferdinand III died and was succeeded by Alfonso X, who was more interested other enterprises" has a clarification needed tag because it is not clear from the writing what Alfonso X is interested in. It's not a citation needed tag, and DYK articles are not meant to be of even good article quality. Now as for what inline citations are there supporting the hook? If you read the article it says clearly that "Ibn al-Ahmar turned against Ibn Hud again in 1236. He helped Ferdinand III of Castile take Córdoba and end centuries of Muslim rule in the city. In the following years, Ibn al-Ahmar took control of important cities in the south: in 1237 he took Granada, Almería in 1238 and Malaga in 1239. He did not take these cities by force, but through political maneuvering and the consent of the inhabitants.[10][9]" There is another paragraph describing the taking of Seville, with inline citations at the end of the paragraph. Let me know if this clears things up for you. Malinaccier (talk) 06:04, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for your full reply. You are probably right about the "clarification needed" tags. Your original review was insufficient because it did not specify which of the DYK criteria you had checked. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:38, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: I did a full review. Let me guide you further. Per WP:DYKRULES an article must be new, long enough, have the hook cited, and be within policy (particularly meeting Verifiability, Living Person Biographies, Copyright, and NPOV). I think you are trying to say that this article is not "within policy." The "clarification needed" tags refer to vague statements in the text, not anything that is outside of policy. For example, "In 1252, Ferdinand III died and was succeeded by Alfonso X, who was more interested other enterprises" has a clarification needed tag because it is not clear from the writing what Alfonso X is interested in. It's not a citation needed tag, and DYK articles are not meant to be of even good article quality. Now as for what inline citations are there supporting the hook? If you read the article it says clearly that "Ibn al-Ahmar turned against Ibn Hud again in 1236. He helped Ferdinand III of Castile take Córdoba and end centuries of Muslim rule in the city. In the following years, Ibn al-Ahmar took control of important cities in the south: in 1237 he took Granada, Almería in 1238 and Malaga in 1239. He did not take these cities by force, but through political maneuvering and the consent of the inhabitants.[10][9]" There is another paragraph describing the taking of Seville, with inline citations at the end of the paragraph. Let me know if this clears things up for you. Malinaccier (talk) 06:04, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Malinaccier: You need to do a full review of the nomination with regard to all the DYK criteria. For example, the hook cannot be promoted while there are "clarification needed" tags in the article. What specific sentences with inline citations back up the hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:35, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
