Template:Did you know nominations/Mount Yamato Katsuragi

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 12:22, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Mount Yamato Katsuragi

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... that Mount Yamato Katsuragi (pictured) has four other historical names, including Mount Kaina, Mount Tenshin, Mount Kamo, and Shinoga Peak?

Created by Nihonjoe (talk). Self-nominated at 06:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC).

Age and length are ok, the article is cited (sources accepted in good faith). The image is free, used in the article and shows well. QPQ done. The hook length is ok, but we need an inline citation (I see that only the last name is cited). Alex2006 (talk) 07:09, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

The citation is for the entire paragraph. I saw no reason to place the same citation every few words in the paragraph, as that looks odd. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:10, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

I understand, but the rule says that the hook must be explicitly cited at the end of its sentence. No big deal, it is enough for you to repeat the citation right at the end of the first mountain denominations. Alex2006 (talk) 16:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Kind of odd that the requirements would be more restrictive than those for a featured article, but whatever. I've added more refs just for you. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:25, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Not just for me: If I had give green light without these refs, the next control at the time of publishing would have blocked the article. :-) Good to go! Alex2006 (talk) 05:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

The first paragraph under "Access and amenities", and the list of shrines, lacks citations, per DYK rules. Yoninah (talk) 13:54, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry @Yoninah:, I am the reviewer of this article: can you please show me the DYK rules that you are mentioning? Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 18:02, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
The rules state that only the part being used in the DYK is required to have a citation. This one has more than one citation. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:29, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Rule D2. Yoninah (talk) 18:35, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I did not know these additional rules. Alex2006 (talk) 04:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
That is a supplementary rule. It has never been required that all paragraphs and/or sentences need a citation. The only thing which has ever been required, as far as citations go, is that the part(s) used for the hook must be cited. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:09, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Supplementary rules are rules like any other; many nominations have been held up because of them. Could you just provide the two cites to show where you got the information in the first paragraph under "Access and amenities", and the list of shrines, and we can move on with this? Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

No, they are supplemental, meaning they are not necessarily required. I've added refs (and did so right after my previous comment, so you apparently didn't bother looking again. Also, you basically railroaded over Alex2006, who was the one reviewing the article in the first place. Is it fine now? ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:49, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Of course I looked at the article before my last post, and now that I look at it again, I see citations missing from the first 2 paragraphs under "Access and amenities", and the list of shrines. I came by to promote this to the preps and, as a matter of policy, had to recheck the original editor's review. This is done all the time, FYI. Yoninah (talk) 07:21, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

BTW, which QPQ did you do for this nomination? Yoninah (talk) 08:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Hallo @Yoninah:, when I reviewed the article I checked his history and I found out that he did less than 5 DYK in the last year, so he was exempted. Question Nr. 2 :-) : there is a tool to see automatically how many DYKs did one promote? Alex2006 (talk) 09:17, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

The new QPQ requirement is not limited by time. If someone has a history of more than 5 DYK credits, he or she needs to submit a QPQ. You can do a QPQ check in the tool box to the right on this nomination page, under "QPQ check". You have to type in the user's name when the page opens up. Best, Yoninah (talk) 11:28, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again @Yoninah:, you should teach AQR (Advanced QPQ Reviewing) at MIT :-). BTW, the tool recites > 5, so I think that a QPQ is needed here... Alex2006 (talk) 12:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

QPQ: Sinuiju Incident. Added even more refs for the needy. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:15, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Excellent. All refs in place and QPQ done. Rest of review per Alex2006. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)