Template:Did you know nominations/Moses Toata

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:37, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Moses Toata

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• ... that Moses Toata has won the Solomon Islands S-League as both a player and a manager?

Created by Yellow Dingo (talk). Self-nominated at 10:48, 6 June 2016 (UTC).

• I made a few spelling corrections in the article. It is long enough and contains inline citations. It is written from a neutral POV. There are a few wikilinks that need to be fixed in the article, but that shouldn't affect DYK status. There don't seem to be copyvios. The hook is interesting. Neither of the three articles cited for the hook explicitly say that he won the S-League as a player and manager, but they all build on each other to support that claim. Looks good to me! Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 20:48, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Amgisseman(BYU): Per Wikipedia:Did you know#Eligibility criteria 3. Cited hook: The fact(s) mentioned in the hook must be cited in the article. If the sources do not explicitly corroborate the hook fact, they are useless. I personally cannot understand the sources given. Toata isn't even mentioned in the 3rd source. Yoninah (talk) 20:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

• The third lists his team, Kossa, as the national champions of the 2006/07 club championship. The second source lists him as a player of that team. The third source lists him as a winner later in 2015/2016, which it also states he was the coach of. So in my mind, together they do support the hook. However, I agree that the sources should be explicit.Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 20:39, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

• Sounds like WP:SYNTH. I'm pinging the nominator. Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Amgisseman(BYU) and Yoninah: Angisseman(BYU) is right in there assumptions. - Yellow Dingo (talk) 21:38, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Yellow Dingo: please read WP:SYNTH. Yoninah (talk) 08:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Yoninah:, thanks for the link and, after reading that, I agree with your judgement above. @Amgisseman(BYU): See below where I have proposed a few ALT hooks. - Yellow Dingo (talk) 08:32, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Moses Toata won the Solomon Islands S-League in his first season as a manager?
• ALT2 : ... that Moses Toata scored 44 minutes into his international football career?
• ALT3 : ... that Moses Toata has played for and managed the Solomon Islands national football team?
• ALT4 : ... that Moses Toata played for only one team in his football career?

• I would promote the article under ALT1. Thanks! Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 19:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)