Template:Did you know nominations/Mithuben Petit
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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Mithuben Petit
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Mithuben Petit standing behind Gandhi at Dandi in 1930.
- ... that Mithuben Petit was a woman freedom fighter during the British Raj who played a major part in the Salt March with Mahatma Gandhi? Sources:[1][2][3][4]
Created by Fitindia (talk). Self-nominated at 19:56, 3 July 2017 (UTC).
- ALT1... that Mithuben Petit was one of the three women who played a pivotal role in the Salt March?Sources:[5][6][7]
New enough, just long enough (this just passes but it would be better to see this page expanded further and with additional sources), neutral with inline sources. Unfortunately the sources given here don't take me to anything that backs up the hook, if it's in one of the books I need to see where or at least to see a quote because when I entered the keywords into the search bar for the book it didn't take me to anything. I would like the nominator to go through and proofread the page again, I'm being a bit picky here but this editor is experienced and has, according to their userpage, created hundreds of pages so while I can understand errors as a result of being written in a second language, there are also punctuation and spacing errors all through the page which need to be fixed. Copyright on the photo looks ok according to wikipedia rules, as India is on the list and i'm going to assume the nominator has more experience of copyright than I do. someone with experience is welcome to check but it looks ok to me. The hook is interesting to a wide audience and within character count, but the 4 sources attached to it don't take me to a sentence or two that backs up the hook, only one takes me to a mention of Petit as 'greatly strengthening the movement', and not that she was a 'freedom fighter' or that she played a 'major part'. I also don't see any inline citation in the article for the biographical information or for the social work section, except for a name check of the award. Having said all that she is clearly a very interesting woman and the page will be very interesting to read when these things are fixed. Mramoeba (talk) 23:06, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- Additional comment, the external link seems to be a college piece, this is not a reliable source. Mramoeba (talk) 23:29, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- Have cleaned it up and added sources.Thank you for the input. FITINDIA 17:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- The proofreading is a big improvement, I have fixed just a couple of minor grammar points. In the article I don't understand these sentences, "with Kasturba Gandhi flagging of the march at Sabarmati," and "when he repeated the violation" (does this one mean when he picked up the salt?) maybe you can reword those or clarify what it means? I can see cites have been added but I am still concerned that there are not inline cites for the biographical information or the in the 'Indian freedom struggle' and 'social work' sections. It may be that the cites are there but I can't see for example any cite for what was taught in the Ashram (only a brief mention that she ran it) nor any cite for the hospital for the mentally ill. As far as this DYK goes, the hook still needs to be properly sourced as per my comments above. It already reads much better. Mramoeba (talk) 19:24, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Quoting from the article Salt March or Dandi March The 24-day march began from 12 March 1930 and continued until 6 April 1930 as a direct action campaign of tax resistance and nonviolent protest against the British salt monopoly, and it gained worldwide attention which gave impetus to the Indian independence movement and started the nationwide Civil Disobedience Movement. This march was one of the most important parts in the freedom movement, In the time when women took a back seat (due to the patriarchal culture at that time in India) she was one of the three women who played a pivotal role in the march and by Mahatma Gandhi picking up the salt was a form of Civil Disobedience against tax on salt. FITINDIA 18:22, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Your explanation is clear. So if you reword those sentences, even incorporating some of this with cites, it will make a lot more sense to the reader I think. I still don't know what 'flagging of the march' means though. Mramoeba (talk) 19:09, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Have added a second hook, a historic image and a source. FITINDIA 18:23, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- Alt 1 is too long, can I suggest you just go with the first part and stop at 'tax on salt' (I'm currently looking at this on my phone, so sorry I can't format it right at this moment). Still looking for inline cites for the first part of the section 'Indian freedom struggle' and a cite for the hospital for the treatment of the mentally ill. I will take the book references for the hook in good faith as I still cannot see the first and third book references, only the photo. With these done I would say it will be ready. Mramoeba (talk) 21:59, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
- * Have added some inline cites please have a look. Thank you. FITINDIA 13:44, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
- I have adjusted a reference as the info was spread across two pages of the website. The article requires one final citation for the biographical part here: "Born into an affluent Parsi family, her father was Sir Dinshaw Maneckji Petit who was a well known industrialist. The young Petit was influenced by her maternal aunt who was a follower of Gandhiji, and was the Secretary of the Rashtriya Stree Sabha" (perhaps it is from one of the books already cited?) Finally, PLEASE reword "flagging of the march" as I have no idea what it means, and then this article is good to go, taking 2 of the hook citations in good faith. Thanks for the article Mramoeba (talk) 14:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
- Have made some changes and added a few sources. Please have a look. Thank you FITINDIA 19:07, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- I have adjusted a reference as the info was spread across two pages of the website. The article requires one final citation for the biographical part here: "Born into an affluent Parsi family, her father was Sir Dinshaw Maneckji Petit who was a well known industrialist. The young Petit was influenced by her maternal aunt who was a follower of Gandhiji, and was the Secretary of the Rashtriya Stree Sabha" (perhaps it is from one of the books already cited?) Finally, PLEASE reword "flagging of the march" as I have no idea what it means, and then this article is good to go, taking 2 of the hook citations in good faith. Thanks for the article Mramoeba (talk) 14:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
- * Have added some inline cites please have a look. Thank you. FITINDIA 13:44, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
- Alt 1 is too long, can I suggest you just go with the first part and stop at 'tax on salt' (I'm currently looking at this on my phone, so sorry I can't format it right at this moment). Still looking for inline cites for the first part of the section 'Indian freedom struggle' and a cite for the hospital for the treatment of the mentally ill. I will take the book references for the hook in good faith as I still cannot see the first and third book references, only the photo. With these done I would say it will be ready. Mramoeba (talk) 21:59, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
- Have added a second hook, a historic image and a source. FITINDIA 18:23, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- Your explanation is clear. So if you reword those sentences, even incorporating some of this with cites, it will make a lot more sense to the reader I think. I still don't know what 'flagging of the march' means though. Mramoeba (talk) 19:09, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Quoting from the article Salt March or Dandi March The 24-day march began from 12 March 1930 and continued until 6 April 1930 as a direct action campaign of tax resistance and nonviolent protest against the British salt monopoly, and it gained worldwide attention which gave impetus to the Indian independence movement and started the nationwide Civil Disobedience Movement. This march was one of the most important parts in the freedom movement, In the time when women took a back seat (due to the patriarchal culture at that time in India) she was one of the three women who played a pivotal role in the march and by Mahatma Gandhi picking up the salt was a form of Civil Disobedience against tax on salt. FITINDIA 18:22, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
![[6]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gandhi_at_Dandi_5_April_1930.jpg){kind=link}
Rechecked for copyvio, all looks ok. Taking some of the book refs in good faith, this is now good to go, with ALT1 . Thanks for the interesting article. Mramoeba (talk) 13:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)