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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 02:23, 7 May 2013 (UTC).
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Miscellany
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- ... that about 1,000 English poetry miscellanies – collections of texts by different authors (example illustrated) – were published in the 18th century?
- Comment: Moved to mainspace on April 23, so nom is clearly a few days late, but this is a substantial piece by a first-time editor & I think deserves a little indulgence.
Created/expanded by BridgenAJ (talk),nominated by User:Johnbod (talk) at 18:49, 3 May 2013 (UTC).
time indulgence granted for such a substantial and beautiful article! Good sources, but I don't find the hook fact given in the citation behind it. I would also like to see a few more paragraphs with a citation. The pic is free, but not too impressive in small size. The pictures in the article: they should not appear left of a heading, or left right under a heading, I suggest to rearrange. The hook: can we perhaps speak about things like popularity, rather than just a number? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:06, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- A picture doesn't have to be ideal, - I would prefer the one from the infobox that has miscellany in the title. The lead doesn't need any refs, as a summary, but the two paras could say where those listed titles come from, please. - I find the hook fact near the end, with ref 36. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- We've both made changes, & I hope the refs are ok now. The picture used does have "miscellany" in its long title, and perhaps you are unaware of the meaning of "bog-house" = toilet, which I think gives this one the edge in DYK terms. The book claims to be in part a collection of writings taken from the walls of toilets by "the Polite part of the World". Maybe I should try a hook spelling that out. Johnbod (talk) 12:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding! Please format from external links within the text to proper refs. I still don't see a citation for the 1000 printed in the 18th century in what is now ref41 ("Ragtime to riches, a musical legacy at the Bodleian Library"), only impressive 900 boxes. What do I miss? - Please format the left pics as described above. We can follow the MOS even if TFA doesn't, every day, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- We've both made changes, & I hope the refs are ok now. The picture used does have "miscellany" in its long title, and perhaps you are unaware of the meaning of "bog-house" = toilet, which I think gives this one the edge in DYK terms. The book claims to be in part a collection of writings taken from the walls of toilets by "the Polite part of the World". Maybe I should try a hook spelling that out. Johnbod (talk) 12:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- A picture doesn't have to be ideal, - I would prefer the one from the infobox that has miscellany in the title. The lead doesn't need any refs, as a summary, but the two paras could say where those listed titles come from, please. - I find the hook fact near the end, with ref 36. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- The creator has now done lots of work on the links & refs which I think are ok. I can't see that MOS:IMAGELOCATION includes these points - it used to years ago, until the software was fixed. Ref 3 now leads to "... there were approximately a thousand published between 1700-1800," - I've changed "over" to "about" in the hook. Johnbod (talk) 17:17, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that one 18th-century English poetic miscellany (illustrated) claimed to include "the Lucubrations of the Polite Part of the World, written upon walls, in Bog-Houses"? (same picture as above) Perhaps more fun. Johnbod (talk) 17:17, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- I am happy with the sourcing now, and Imagelocation changed since I saw it last. Sorry, I'm not a MOS person, but I like pics better right of the heading ;) - What do you think of a less specific combination of number and fun:
- ALT2: that one of about 1,000 English poetry miscellanies of the 18th century is The Merry Thought: or, The Glass-Window and Bog-house Miscellany (pictured)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- ALT3 that one of about 1,000 English poetry miscellanies of the 18th century included "the Lucubrations of the Polite Part of the World, written upon walls, in Bog-Houses" (pictured) ? still only 166 chars. Same pic. Johnbod (talk) 17:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Where in ALT3 would "pictured" go? What page in the source says "lucubrations"? Please place behind it, for teh rulez. - Sorry, that clever wording sounds a bit foreign to me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Pictured added. The quote is on the frontispiece illustrated. Well I suppose it is foreign for you, but it has period character, & I think "written upon walls" is necessary to explain the hook. Johnbod (talk) 18:00, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- I took the liberty to move pictured, as it is the very one.
ALT3 preferred, offline sources accepted AGF, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Pictured added. The quote is on the frontispiece illustrated. Well I suppose it is foreign for you, but it has period character, & I think "written upon walls" is necessary to explain the hook. Johnbod (talk) 18:00, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Where in ALT3 would "pictured" go? What page in the source says "lucubrations"? Please place behind it, for teh rulez. - Sorry, that clever wording sounds a bit foreign to me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
