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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:15, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

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Mexican Federal Highway 40D

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Baluarte Bridge
Baluarte Bridge

* ... that Mexican Federal Highway 40D from Durango to Mazatlán features 68 tunnels and 115 bridges, including the world's tallest cable-stayed bridge (pictured)? Source: "...donde construyó el puente atirantado más alto del mundo, El Baluarte ... La carretera Durango-Mazatlán tiene una longitud de 230 kilómetros, con 12 metros de ancho de corona, velocidad de 110 kilómetros por hora, 115 puentes, viaductos y pasos a desnivel y 68 túneles."

  • Reviewed: Ariel Award for Best Actress
  • Comment: The bridge picture apparently appeared on DYK for the bridge article in January 2012. This article is about the highway that uses it. (QPQ 5 of 6)

Moved to mainspace by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 22:15, 2 April 2017 (UTC).

Interesting, on good sources, Spanish sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. - Unfortunately, even if it's a different topic, the image can't be used again. Please suggest a different one. I don't know if you can include images in the infoboxes, - we should avoid text squeezed between image and infobox. One paragraph needs a citation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Would File:Puente_Baluarte,_Mexico5.jpg be a suitable alternative? There also are not enough images of Mexican highways in general on the encyclopedia, a problem exacerbated for toll roads by the recency of many of them (segments of this road opened as late as 2014). As to the infoboxes issue, {{Infobox road small}} does not have an image facility, so that is not possible. Also, all paragraphs have at least one citation — which one is missing one? (Also, please ping me when replying to my noms!) Raymie (t • c) 21:24, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes, the image would be good! - Do you have to use {{Infobox road small}}? - I'd like a citation at the end, otherwise the end looks unreferenced. - I expect you to have you noms watchlisted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Infobox road small is the standard for this sort of article; I can't use one infobox because the legal designations vary (and the road is not continuous). I'll make sure to go back and add citations at the end to some of the paragraphs missing them. And I've now watched this page. Raymie (t • c) 23:05, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt:: I've added citations to the final sentences of all the paragraphs in the article. Raymie (t • c) 00:22, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Baluarte Bridge
Baluarte Bridge
Thank you! Spanish sources accepted AGF. I made the alternate image visible and hope it will be used. - In the article: I tried to fix the "sandwiching", another option would be to have a lead image. Can't believe infobox road has no image option, go request one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but one source says 61 tunnels, and the other says 68 tunnels. Which is it? Yoninah (talk) 19:39, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: The sources that say 61 are from 2012. The sources that say 68 are more recent: 2013, 2015, 2015. There was a change in presidential administration between the two numbers, so the changes at the SCT might have to do with it. The only way to actually figure this out might be to drive the highway! However, the 68 number was used at the final inauguration of the whole highway and during its 2015 repair fiasco. Raymie (t • c) 20:27, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
  • @Raymie: OK. It's not the first time that some sources didn't quote information correctly. We'll go with the updated number. Would you mind adding some of those recent refs to the inline cite? Restoring tick. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Done. Turns out one of those sources actually had some information to add in another sentence. Raymie (t • c) 20:51, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Great! Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Well, looks like there was a hook issue (out of date) which was totally my fault. I'm going to suggest one alt which could be approved pretty quickly, because I can't find anything not boring in the rest of the article: Raymie (t • c) 16:39, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: {{infobox road}} has an image option, but {{infobox road small}} does not to keep its display, well, small. Imzadi 1979 → 22:31, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Imzadi1979, now I found it, thanks for telling me, - it's not in the first coding suggestions, nor in an example, nor in a list of all parameters (usually top right in the docu), because that is missing. OK, will change. The template should have an image_upright parameter, to avoid fixed image sizes. Compare {{infobox opera}}. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

For a new hook: why not mention the bridge, pictured. The hook may be boring, the image isn't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

That would be fine too. (I know this discussion is a little messy-looking, but...) Raymie (t • c) 23:54, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
  • New reviewer needed for ALT2 hook. Yoninah (talk) 09:21, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Since this is not on the T:TDYK page, I don't think anyone is going to step up and review this... Raymie (t • c) 23:16, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
  • @Raymie: It's back on the Approved page. We return approved nominations to that page if they need further work. If you think it needs more attention, perhaps raise the issue at WT:DYK. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 07:57, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I'll go ahead and approve this, since I didn't have any input into the hooks. ALT2 hook refs verified and cited inline. "Then the tallest" was added because other, taller bridges have appeared since then. I removed the construction image and affirm that the image of the bridge is freely-licensed. Rest of review per Gerda Arendt. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 13:27, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
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