Template:Did you know nominations/Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 12:41, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower

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The Metropolitan Life Tower in 1921

... that the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower (pictured), once the tallest building in the world, is older than the structure it is modeled after? Source: NYCL p. 7
- ALT1:... that the Metropolitan Life Tower (pictured) was used in its namesake's advertising as "The Light That Never Fails"? Source: Moudry, Roberta (2005). "The Corporate and the Civic: Metropolitan Life's Home Office Building". p. 128.
- ALT2:... that the Metropolitan Life Tower (pictured), once the world's tallest building, now contains a hotel? Source: Bizjournals

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Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 14:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough (promoted to GA status on the day of the nomination) and long enough. Well-sourced and seems neutral and free of plagiarism, as is expected of an article with GA status. Earwig stands at 17.4%, but that's mostly due to the phrase "Metropolitan Life Insurance Company" so it's not a problem. The image is OK.

All the hooks are cited and included in the article. Of the three hooks, ALT0 is definitely the most interesting one, but is it really accurate? The tower built in 1905–08 is not modeled after the structure built in 1902–12, but on the original campanile. Both the NYC building and the present-day campanile are modeled on the old campanile, but they are not modeled on each other. An example of a building which "is older than the structure it is modeled after" would be the Alte Bibliothek (Berlin) [de] which was built in 1775–80 and was based on the Michaelertrakt [de], which had been designed in the 1720s but was not built until the 1890s.

Perhaps ALT0 can be reworded to make it slightly less misleading? Regarding the other hooks, both are acceptable, although I would prefer ALT1 over ALT2 since the latter is not particularly noteworthy (there are plenty of tall buildings which are hotels).

Apart from that, looks good to go after QPQ is done. Well done on the article! Xwejnusgozo (talk) 09:23, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Xwejnusgozo, thanks for the review. I have done a QPQ now Maybe I can suggest ALT3:

ALT3 ... that the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower (pictured), once the tallest building in the world, is modeled on a destroyed building that was not rebuilt until after the Metropolitan Life Tower's completion? epicgenius (talk) 16:21, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

QPQ done so it's now good to go. ALT3 is more accurate than ALT0 but I think it's a bit too long, perhaps it can be modified along the lines of:

ALT3a ... that the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower (pictured), once the tallest building in the world, was modeled on St Mark's Campanile which was not rebuilt until after the tower's completion?

Xwejnusgozo (talk) 11:10, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this, but ALT3-3a are really long and wordy. I like ALT1, but I'm wondering if we could run the whole bolded link rather than part of it to make it clear that this is an insurance company? Yoninah (talk) 21:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Lantern at top of MetLife Tower

Also, the black and white image, while showing the whole tower, looks really dated. I would suggest running this image with a revised ALT1. Yoninah (talk) 21:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Yoninah: I like the proposed alternate image. How about this?

ALT4:... that the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower (pictured) was used in its namesake's advertising as "The Light That Never Fails"? epicgenius (talk) 22:00, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that's the expansion of ALT1 that I had in mind. I added the part about the lantern to the article and hook caption. Restoring tick for ALT4 per Xwejnusgozo's review. Yoninah (talk) 12:38, 5 June 2020 (UTC)