Template:Did you know nominations/Mayotte's 1st constituency by-election, 2018
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:55, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
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Mayotte's 1st constituency by-election, 2018
[edit]- ... that there are only two La République En Marche group deputies in the French National Assembly representing overseas France after a by-election was called in Mayotte's 1st constituency? Source: "L'annulation de l'élection de Ramlati Ali, députée LREM de Mayotte, est la deuxième du genre dans les Outre-mer. En décembre, le Conseil Constitutionnel avait déjà annulé l'élection du député LREM de Guyane Lenaick Adam. Seuls deux députés ultramarins sont membres du groupe LREM à l'Assemblée nationale : Olivier Serva (Guadeloupe) et Stéphane Claireaux (Saint-Pierre et Miquelon)." (Outre-Mer 1ère, 19 January 2018)
- ALT1:... that there are only two deputies representing overseas France in the French National Assembly that are members of the La République En Marche group after a by-election was called in Mayotte's 1st constituency? Source: same as above
- ALT2:... that Elad Chakrina initially won Mayotte's 1st constituency by 12 votes, lost by 54 votes after a counting error was corrected, then forced a by-election after an appeal? Source: "Le Conseil constitutionnel a annulé vendredi matin l'élection de la députée LREM de Mayotte Ramlati Ali ... L'élection de Ramlati Ali en juin dernier dans la 1re circonscription de Mayotte avait été mouvementée. Donnée dans un premier temps perdante le dimanche soir, elle avait finalement été annoncée élue le lundi, lorsque la commission de recensement des votes de Mayotte avait modifié les résultats après une erreur de comptage. Mme Ali ... totalisait au final 7.992 voix (50,17%), contre 7.938 voix pour son adversaire. La veille, les résultats donnaient ce dernier élu avec seulement 12 voix d'avance." (L'Express/AFP, 19 January 2018)
- ALT3:... that a by-election was called after members of a polling station in Dzaoudzi attempted to rectify an irregularly cast vote by randomly discarding a ballot, a procedure which itself was irregular? Source: "En second lieu, le requérant avance que le procès-verbal du bureau de vote n° 63 de la commune de Dzaoudzi mentionne qu'une personne ayant voté irrégulièrement, les membres du bureau de vote ont retiré de l'urne, au hasard, avant le début du dépouillement, une enveloppe. Il résulte de la consultation du procès-verbal concerné qu'une personne a effectivement irrégulièrement voté et qu'il a été procédé à la rectification, également irrégulière, alléguée." (Decision of the constitutional council, 19 January 2018)
- ALT4:... that a by-election was called in Mayotte's 1st constituency after 25 fewer signatures were found on electoral rolls than ballots in ballot boxes? Source: "En premier lieu, le requérant, candidat battu au second tour des élections contestées avec un écart de 54 voix, soutient que l'examen des listes d'émargement et des procès-verbaux des opérations électorales révèle des différences dans plusieurs communes de la circonscription entre le nombre de bulletins trouvés dans l'urne et le nombre d'émargements. Il résulte de l'examen de ces listes d'émargement et procès-verbaux que, dans plusieurs bureaux de vote des communes de Mamoudzou, Acoua, Dzaoudzi, Brandaboua et Mtsamboro, le nombre des émargements est inférieur au nombre des bulletins trouvés dans l'urne. Cette différence est au total de 25." (Decision of the constitutional council, 19 January 2018)
- Reviewed: currently exempt as fewer than 5 DYK nominations have been made
Created by Mélencron (talk). Self-nominated at 15:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC).
Article is new and long enough, QPQ not necessary per nom. As for the hooks, they are pretty similar and just within character limits. I don't think it's necessarily so interesting or pointy that there are now "only" two "En Marche" representants in the parliament. I think the circumstances that made this byelection come around may be more interesting, so I would like to see one of two other hook suggestions. As for whether the article is within policy, I note that the two longest paragraphs are directly sourced to a court decision and follow the structure and partly wording of the decision very closely. Whether this is a "close paraphrasing" issue I am a bit unsure of as the source is a court decision where close paraphrasing generally is less of a concern, but being so close to a legal source also make some paragraphs very detailed and clunky to read. I suspect English is not your first language which maybe contributes to a bit troubled language some places, like in this sentence "Because one vote was irregularly cased in polling station number 63 in the commune of Dzaoudzi, the members of the polling station randomly discarded an envelope from the ballot box prior to the beginning of counting; one vote having been cast irregularly and one envelope also having been irregularly discarded in an attempt to correct for this error, the margin between the two candidates was now considered 27 votes". I am ready to hear your thoughts about this, but I think the body of the article would benefit for being edited somewhat for simplicity and clarity. Information like polling station "number 63" may seem too detailed. I would also like to see included at least one secondary source covering the court decision, in addition to the court decision itself. Iselilja (talk) 22:17, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I can take a bit of time to copyedit the article – I haven't looked at it since I created it. I can also address the citation issues somewhat, but can't guarantee that any secondary sources go into the same level of detail (most merely mention the issues only in passing), but can trim it considerably anyway given that it's perhaps excessive. I'm busy for the next few days, though, so might not take care of these in the immediate future. Mélencron (talk) 22:44, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Iselilja: I've cut the prose section by about a fifth and added a couple additional secondary sources to accompany the decision of the constitutional council, as well as added a couple hook suggestions. Mélencron (talk) 15:11, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. I think the article was much more readable now, and I will approve ALT2. i'll note here that the source you cite doesn't explicitly say 54 votes, so you got to subtract 7938 from 7992 to get to that number, but 54 votes is explicitly named in another source that is inline cited in the article so the hook fact is cited and correct (fact is spread to two different places in the article). As for the other hook suggestions, ALT1 is correct, but in my view not so interesting. ALT3 and ALT4 are correct, but may be slightly misleading, as they each only cites part of the complaints that led to annullement. The sources are in French, which I can read. Iselilja (talk) 23:30, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
