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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Mayor of Bristol

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Created/expanded by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Meticulous inline citations. Facts in hook verified and cited. Date and length fine. Small issues: 1. In "Background" I was able to verify results for Hartlepool and Middlesborough (searching under Election Results), but I couldn't find the results for the other 4 areas listed. 2. In the 2nd paragraph of "Referendum campaign" you mention "available to an elected mayor," but I think perhaps you meant "available to Bristol with an elected mayor." 3. Under "Election" I was unable to find the fact that nominations were not yet open in the source. Another small thing, for the article review, the link is usually to the nomination, rather than the article. If you insert the name with no wikilinks at the time of the original nomination, it's done automatically. If later, it seems to be a little trickier. Thank you for your article. Anne (talk) 14:30, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
I have addressed your points, but I am afraid I do not understand the issue of the review link. If I click on Review or comment on the DYK nom page I am brought straight to this review. This appears to be the case for all of the nominations. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:24, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I think I understand now, I have fixed the link to my review of Nicolae Penescu. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Great. I went ahead and made the change I suggested in #2 above, too. You're all set. Anne (talk) 22:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Two major problems with the hook:
  • The fact that there were ten referendums on 3 May 2012 does not appear anywhere in the Mayor of Bristol article, and it must (and be cited) in order to be included in the hook. Otherwise, the hook must be based on some other fact.
  • Thank you, I had overlooked that. Amended and cited now. Jezhotwells (talk) 12:59, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
  • The way the hook reads, all ten referendums were on creating a mayor of Bristol, when in fact they were each about the city holding the referendum only, and (apparently) only Bristol opted to have a directly elected mayor.
Whichever approach you decide to take going forward, the hook must be revised. If the new hook is still based on the ten referendums, then the article must be revised as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 12:05, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Follow-up: Is there any secondary source you can cite that states there were ten on that day, as the hook says? At the moment, you give a source for Bristol and sources for each of nine other cities, but I don't believe there's one that establishes there were exactly ten and these were them, and there needs to be to avoid the article relying on WP:OR. (If I missed it, my apologies.) I imagine there's something available from the "ten cities" article cited. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:26, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Added, ref #25. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Splendid! New ref supports the ten cities, the date of the referendum, and the results: the entire hook, in fact. Suggesting the minor wording change of "to switch to a" from "to have a" as shown in ALT1 below: it's clearer, and there can be no confusion with what an eleventh city, Doncaster, did:
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