Template:Did you know nominations/Max Rose
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:30, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Max Rose (politician)
[edit]- ... that Max Rose, the 2018 Democratic Party candidate for U.S. Representative of Staten Island and South Brooklyn in New York City, is the recipient of a Bronze Star, a Ranger Tab and a Purple Heart?
- ALT1:... that Max Rose, veteran of the Afghanistan conflict and chief of staff at a health care nonprofit which runs clinics around New York City, is the 2018 Democratic Party candidate for U.S. Representative of Staten Island and South Brooklyn?
- Comment: Strongly prefer the article to go on the main page before November 6, when the election occurs
Converted from a redirect by Philepitta (talk) and La comadreja (talk). Nominated by La comadreja (talk) at 20:44, 30 October 2018 (UTC).
Community consensus is against this article existing independently at this time. ——SerialNumber54129 18:00, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Putting on hold until either after the deletion review ends, or after the election (whichever comes first). Note that the article is currently a redirect pending the DR outcome. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:16, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
As the subject has won his election bid and the article has been restored, this is ready for a new review. Courtesy ping Serial Number 54129 and Juxlos. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:58, 7 November 2018 (UTC)- Thank you Narutolovehinata5. It should probably fail again as the hook is clearly incorrect. We are at least lucky that the DRV kept it off the front page before the election, thus denying the oxygen of publicity so desperately wanted, it would seem, in the nom. ——SerialNumber54129 14:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Serial Number 54129: Looking at the article now, I don't really see much wrong with it: it does appear to be adequately sourced and neutrally written (at least right now). My main issue is the hook proposals itself: as mentioned here, they appear to have a promotional, even campaigning, tone. My suggestion is that a variation of ALT0, perhaps focusing on his military career instead of his campaign, would option here. @Philepitta and La comadreja: In the interest of disclosure, hooks are prohibited from being run 30 days before a subject's election date unless all major candidates are featured as well; as such, the request to be featured before November 6 would have been disallowed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:01, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Indeed, my issue was only ever with the spammy hook, not the article. Agree with you that the issue could be resolved with a hook that focusses on something other than his political career. ——SerialNumber54129 10:23, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Serial Number 54129: I think the best option here is ALT0 since it's more about his military career and the part about being a candidate is only a descriptor. Do you have any ideas on how to reword it? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:11, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Max Rose won the election. I would reword it as: ... that Max Rose, U.S. Representative of Staten Island and South Brooklyn, is a veteran of the Afghanistan conflict and served as chief of staff at a health care nonprofit which runs clinics around New York City?
- Thing is, he doesn't actually becomes Representative until January, so that might need to be reworded depending on when this will be promoted. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- So maybe we could call him "representative-elect"?
- ALT2: ... that Max Rose, the U.S. Representative-elect of Staten Island and South Brooklyn in New York City, is the recipient of a Bronze Star, a Ranger Tab and a Purple Heart?
- or ALT3: ... that Max Rose, veteran of the Afghanistan conflict and former chief of staff at a health care nonprofit which runs clinics around New York City, is the U.S. Representative-elect of Staten Island and South Brooklyn?
- So maybe we could call him "representative-elect"?
- Thing is, he doesn't actually becomes Representative until January, so that might need to be reworded depending on when this will be promoted. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Max Rose won the election. I would reword it as: ... that Max Rose, U.S. Representative of Staten Island and South Brooklyn, is a veteran of the Afghanistan conflict and served as chief of staff at a health care nonprofit which runs clinics around New York City?
- @Serial Number 54129: I think the best option here is ALT0 since it's more about his military career and the part about being a candidate is only a descriptor. Do you have any ideas on how to reword it? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:11, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Indeed, my issue was only ever with the spammy hook, not the article. Agree with you that the issue could be resolved with a hook that focusses on something other than his political career. ——SerialNumber54129 10:23, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Philepitta (talk) 02:49, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed for ALT hooks; it's been three weeks with no previous reviewer return to review the updated hooks. (To avoid confusion, I've renumbered the newly proposed hooks.) BlueMoonset (talk) 05:29, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Length, Date, Cites, and Earwigs check. However, a QPQ must be done for this to be approved. Mifter (talk) 06:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- QPQ performed on Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Nature_of_Prejudice. La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 04:08, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Seems there are no more issues here so this is now good to go. Approving both ALT2 and ALT3, rest of the review per Mifter. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
