Template:Did you know nominations/Mathilda Twomey
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by MPJ-DK 01:15, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
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Mathilda Twomey
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Mathilda Twomey in 2015
- ... that Mathilda Twomey (pictured) is the first female judge in Seychelles?
ALT1:.. that Mathilda Twomey (pictured) is the first woman in Seychelles to be appointed judge and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Seychelles?- Reviewed: Andrew Butchart
Created by Oluwa2Chainz (talk). Self-nominated at 12:24, 5 August 2016 (UTC). QPQ submitted by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) at 18:37, 18 August 2016 (UTC).
Article is new enough and barely long enough. Article seems neutral to me and I don't see any BLP issues. Some issues with sources: Where is the Payette name cited from? I see it in source #5 not #1. And speaking of source #5, the text sourced to it contains a CV that I don't see in the source. Also not seeing the "master's degree in public law" anywhere. I think the text of the whole article should say "the Seychelles". Might want to note that she was at Multiple Sclerosis Ireland since 1996. The source seems to say her predecessor was named Fredrick Egonda-Ntende not Martin Stephen Egonda-Ntende, I am concerned by the overlap between the text in source #6 and the article text, see WP:CLOP, as well as this. Both hooks are interesting, neutral and not focused on negative claims on living people, article link needs to be in bold, not sure which one is better, they are sourced in the article and also mentioned there. QPQ wise it seems like you have 6 DYK nominations but the reviewer tool doesn't show any of them; a QPQ is needed thus. File looks pretty but the source link should point to a page where we can see the license; I found it on http://www.seychellesnewsagency.com/articles/3485/Le+prsident+des+Seychelles+nomme+Mathilda+Twomey,+premire+femme,+juge+en+chef+de+la+Cour+suprme. This article needs a bit more work before it can go. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:05, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus:, statements have been backed up with inline sources. As for her predecessor, a quick online search on Frederick Egonda-Ntende brings up results relating to Martin Stephen Egonda-Ntende. I have however wikilinked Frederick into Martin Stephen. I don't know if it is a mix-up or something. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 20:56, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Oluwa2Chainz: The French law degree needs to be sourced. Not sure about whether the CLOP issue was fixed as the copyvio tool is failing again. QPQ still necessary. Other issues have been fixed, I shall assume given http://www.judiciary.go.ug/data/incourt/18/The%20Honorable%20Justices%20of%20the%20Court%20of%20Appeal%20.html that her predecessor has a complicated name. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:08, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- Ref has been added. Thanks for clarifying on the mix-up. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 21:43, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, ref issues are resolved and CLOP issue looks resolved as well. Oluwa2Chainz, you still need to do a QPQ: Review someone else's DYK nomination. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- QPQ done! —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 22:59, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oluwa2Chainz Pardon for still nagging, but that is a fairly basic QPQ. Can you address all points of the DYK nomination criteria (such as the hook) as well? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:46, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
- QPQ done! —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 22:59, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- Ref has been added. Thanks for clarifying on the mix-up. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 21:43, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus:, statements have been backed up with inline sources. As for her predecessor, a quick online search on Frederick Egonda-Ntende brings up results relating to Martin Stephen Egonda-Ntende. I have however wikilinked Frederick into Martin Stephen. I don't know if it is a mix-up or something. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 20:56, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
Well, the other DYK has been approved and run on the main page anyway, so the QPQ issue seems to be moot. Thus
Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: the QPQ issue is not "moot" just because that hook was promoted. The prep builder probably double-checked all the criteria before promoting it. If a QPQ does not explicitly confirm that the five main DYK criteria have been met, you can ask for another QPQ. BTW, where is the QPQ linked on this page? Yoninah (talk) 21:00, 15 August 2016 (UTC)- Yoninah Template:Did you know nominations/William P. Ragsdale is the QPQ in question, the concern I had is that it seems to address only a few of the DYK points. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:07, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- You're right, it is not a complete review, and the reviewer himself asked for another set of eyes. I think Oluwa2Chainz should try another review and use the DYK Checklist found under "Reviewers' template" in the DYK Toolbox (located to the right of every nomination in the edit window), to cover all the criteria. Yoninah (talk) 21:11, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Asked them on their talk page for another complete review. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:48, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Three days and no comment. Based on a discussion on WT:DYK about "taking over" someone else's DYK nomination, I am going to submit my own review on Template:Did you know nominations/Andrew Butchart as the QPQ, that is to take over (this part of) the nomination. Kind of uncharted waters with such a move; the new reviewer should assess this as well. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:37, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, Jo-Jo Eumerus, QPQs have been donated many times in the past to satisfy the requirement when the nominator hasn't supplied one. It's very kind of you to do so, and as long as it's a valid, full review, there should be no question of it being accepted. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:36, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
Reviewer still needed to reassess this nomination. Note that Jo-Jo Eumerus has donated a QPQ. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:26, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
This article was new enough when nominated and is long enough. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Approving ALT0 which is unequivocal. Not approving ALT1 because the source cited states that she is "the first Seychellois woman to be appointed to the [Chief Justice] post", which is not precisely the same as the first woman. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:29, 18 September 2016 (UTC)