Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Earle
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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 18:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
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Mary Earle
Professor Earle
- ... that Mary Earle (pictured) was born near Ben Nevis, and although she became a professor of food technology in New Zealand, she never forgot her Scottish roots? Source: all in here apart from "near Ben Nevis" which is here
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Wright (designer)
- Comment: Happy to see alt hooks. Part of Women in Red from Oceania editathon
Created by Paora (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 12:30, 30 November 2021 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, and properly sourced. QPQ done. Although Earwig found some proper noun phrases and set phrases in common with the sources, there appears to be no problematic copying. One easily-resolved issue: the hook says "Professor of Food Technology", capitalized as if it is a proper noun phrase. That phrase does not appear in the article. Is it her actual formal title or is it merely that she was a professor, and that the subject she professed is food technology. If the latter, it should be lower case. It looks from the https://tamiro.massey.ac.nz/nodes/view/7001 source that she was indeed a professor in the Massey University Department of Food Technology, but that affiliation is not actually stated in the article, and should be to support the hook. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:08, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review @David Eppstein:, I've made it lower case as I'm not sure of her formal title - but it was her specialism. Victuallers (talk) 01:46, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, but the phrase "professor of X" generally means that they are a professor in the department of X, or officially recognized in their title as professor of X, rather than that they are a professor who specializes in X. In this case, it is accurate to call her "professor of food technology", because we do have a source saying that she was in the Massey University Department of Food Technology. But what we don't have is text in the article itself saying that she was in the Massey University Department of Food Technology. Could something like that be added, please? Also, "professor" should be lowercased as well. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: I have added the department bit explicitly with a ref. I have also changed the case of Professor to professor. Please note that you are allowed to make small changes if you find that easier. Thanks again for the review. Victuallers (talk) 11:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, good to go after small fixes. I forgot to check this earlier, but the image license checks out, so that part is also good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Victuallers: I'm not seeing where it's stated in the article how she never forgot her scottish roots? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she?) 10:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: The last para says "Mary Earle died in Palmerston North on 18 April 2021, and she chose to be buried in Turakina where some of the earliest Scottish immigrants to New Zealand had lived [as she had never forgotten her Scottish roots AND...]. She had been a president of the Clan Cameron Association of New Zealand." So feel free to add this more explicitly if you feel it is required. Victuallers (talk) 11:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Victuallers: I'm not seeing where it's stated in the article how she never forgot her scottish roots? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she?) 10:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: I have added the department bit explicitly with a ref. I have also changed the case of Professor to professor. Please note that you are allowed to make small changes if you find that easier. Thanks again for the review. Victuallers (talk) 11:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, but the phrase "professor of X" generally means that they are a professor in the department of X, or officially recognized in their title as professor of X, rather than that they are a professor who specializes in X. In this case, it is accurate to call her "professor of food technology", because we do have a source saying that she was in the Massey University Department of Food Technology. But what we don't have is text in the article itself saying that she was in the Massey University Department of Food Technology. Could something like that be added, please? Also, "professor" should be lowercased as well. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review @David Eppstein:, I've made it lower case as I'm not sure of her formal title - but it was her specialism. Victuallers (talk) 01:46, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Tweaked ALT0 to T:DYK/P5