Template:Did you know nominations/Marquesan Dog

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:27, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Marquesan Dog

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Dog stone relief from Hiva Oa, Marquesas Islands

... that Thor Heyerdahl claimed this relief (pictured) — now thought to be an extinct Marquesan Dog — depicted a llama to support his claim that Polynesia was settled from South America?
- ALT1:... that Thor Heyerdahl claimed a Marquesas Islands stone relief (pictured) — now thought to be an extinct Marquesan Dog — was a llama to support his claim that Polynesia was settled from South America?
- ALT2:... that Thor Heyerdahl claimed to see a llama in a Marquesas Islands stone relief (pictured) — now thought to be an extinct Marquesan Dog — in order to bolster his claim that Polynesia was settled from South America?
- ALT3:... that Thor Heyerdahl claimed a Marquesas Islands stone relief (pictured) — now thought to be an extinct extinct dog — was a llama to support his claim that Polynesia was settled from South America?
- ALT4:... that Thor Heyerdahl claimed to see a llama in a Marquesas Islands stone relief (pictured) — now thought to be an extinct dog — in order to bolster his claim that Polynesia was settled from South America?

Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=Ei9ADgAAQBAJ&pg=PA144
Reviewed: Medstead
Comment: Hooks are order by my preference. If these are not good. Please suggest a better worded, shorter hook, but I like to include all the essential information including the reference to the extinct dog, llamas, stone relief, and Heyerdahl's theory on Polynesian migration. Also please promote with the image of the stone relief when it goes on the main page; it is rather mysterious looking image.

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 19:46, 16 March 2017 (UTC).

Review by Maile

QPQ

QPQ review by KAVEBEAR has not been used as a QPQ on any other nomination

Eligibility

Article created by KAVEBEAR on March 15, 2017, and has 3302 characters (0 words) "readable prose size"
Article is NPOV, currently stable, no dispute tags

Sourcing

Citations are appropriately placed in every paragraph and correctly formatted
No bare URLs, and no external links used as inline sources

Hook

4 of the 5 hooks are less than 200 characters in length, NPOV, stated in the article and sourced where stated. One hook is 202 characters

Image

Image used is in the article, uploaded on Commons from Flikr under the Creative Commons Share Alike

Tools

Earwig's Copyvio Detector showed 0% copyvio
I read through the sources and made slight wording change on one sentence I thought was too close to the source
AGF on the offline source
Dab solver says there are no dab links in the article.
~~External Links tool (in the upper right-hand DYK toolbox): Source 10, Wanderlust magazine comes up "file not found".~~ All other links in this article are working fine.

You certainly do find some interesting subjects to write about. Please do something about the link for Wanderlust magazine. Everything else about this nomination is fine. Below is an ALT6, if you like; or strike through if you don't like it. — Maile (talk) 13:48, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

'ALT6':... that a Marquesan Dog stone relief (pictured) was mistaken by explorer Karl von den Steinen to be a rat, and by Thor Heyerdahl to be a llama?

@Maile66: Fixed link, I think I will just stick with the hooks I suggested and see what others think. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:17, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Then this is good to go. — Maile (talk) 18:06, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

@Maile66: I made some significant changes. Can you recheck and give this another tick? Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:48, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

I'll get back to you later. Don't have time right now, and Earwig's tool is not working. You have increased this article by a little over 71%, so I'll need time to read through it. Later. — Maile (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

KAVEBEAR I see you were working on the article again last night. Now it's almost doubled the original. How about if I wait a day or two until you've finished for sure, or what you believe is for sure. Then we only have to do one last re-review. — Maile (talk) 15:11, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@Maile66: I believe I am finish with any major changes to the article. It is good for a second read through.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:39, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Supplemental re-review by Maile
Article currently has 7164 characters (0 words) "readable prose size"
Sourcing on the expansion are fine. Earwig Violation Unlikely does flag a handful of proper nouns and a couple of short common phrases not of concern. It should be noted the addition of Rapa Nui Journal is a PDF linked through Wordpress. But I did some research and found through WorldCat that Rapa Nui Journal was a legitimate journal that is on file at 3 German universities.
I renumbered your hooks, because you missed the number 3.

Hook is 171 characters
ALT1 is 187 characters
ALT2 is 202 characters
ALT3 is 185 characters
ALT4 is 193 characters

Everything still looks good on this for DYK. If you feel like putting in the work and wait time, it would certainly be a different type of nomination at FAC. Good luck with this. — Maile (talk) 12:43, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Comment to promoter, please use one of the longer hooks with the image (given its ambiguity, it is really interesting) when it comes time to prep, I think the longer hooks actually are fine and don't go over the character limit since I was counting (pictured) before except ALT1 and ALT2 which are 202 characters if we count the em dash. Please let me know if there are any changes to the hook when it does go to prep. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:20, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

@KAVEBEAR: How about

ALT5 ... that a relief (pictured), now accepted as an extinct Marquesan Dog, was claimed by Thor Heyerdahl to depict a llama to support his claim that Polynesia was settled from South America? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:14, 26 March 2017 (UTC)