Template:Did you know nominations/Maricha
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The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:44, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Maricha
[edit]- ... that in the Hindu epic Ramayana, Maricha assumed the form of a golden deer studded with gems to facilitate the kidnapping of the heroine?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 15:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Absolutely fine! Short, very interesting Ready to go..! --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunately, not fine by DYK standards. Two of the four sections have no inline sourcing in their final paragraphs (all paragraphs must have at least one inline source). More troubling, the hook facts are not sourced by the end of the sentence in which they appear, and even more so, there is a quote involved that is unsourced (for quotes, it needs to be clear which source is being quoted in the text; waiting until the end of the paragraph is not adequate). The other quote in that section is also not sourced, and even if it is dialogue, it's from a source and needs to be inline, not end-of-paragraph. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:13, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- Those 1 line paras do not need refs as any one with a basic knowledge of the Ramayana will not challenge it. Wikipedia:Verifiability says only material likely to be challenged. Now, all paragraphs have at least one inline source. Quotes addressed. Refs for the hook is the whole last section, not a sentence in particular. All refs at end of paras. --Redtigerxyz Talk 16:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- We're almost there; thanks for making those changes. However, you can't put refs for the hooks at the end of a paragraph when "studded with gems" is only covered by the one sentence you modified, much earlier in the paragraph. That sentence has to have a reference per WP:DYK's eligibility criteria, 3b: "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it, since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." (Since "golden" and "deer" are in the final sentence of the paragraph, they're presumably covered by the citations there already.) BlueMoonset (talk) 19:09, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- Done. "facilitate the kidnapping..." is whole section. --Redtigerxyz Talk 18:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've gone through the section to make sure the prose tense used is consistently past tense with predictive material a future conditional ("would" rather than "will"); there were a few places where it broke into present or even future that didn't seem appropriate. Can you check to make sure I haven't done any violence to facts? (I wasn't sure about the end of the second paragraph, with its allusion to a second tale of Maricha's encounters with Rama.) No need to delay the following, however, even if you need to make an edit or two to the prose:
- Inline source added to confirm hook facts; approval restored. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:17, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've gone through the section to make sure the prose tense used is consistently past tense with predictive material a future conditional ("would" rather than "will"); there were a few places where it broke into present or even future that didn't seem appropriate. Can you check to make sure I haven't done any violence to facts? (I wasn't sure about the end of the second paragraph, with its allusion to a second tale of Maricha's encounters with Rama.) No need to delay the following, however, even if you need to make an edit or two to the prose:
- Done. "facilitate the kidnapping..." is whole section. --Redtigerxyz Talk 18:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- We're almost there; thanks for making those changes. However, you can't put refs for the hooks at the end of a paragraph when "studded with gems" is only covered by the one sentence you modified, much earlier in the paragraph. That sentence has to have a reference per WP:DYK's eligibility criteria, 3b: "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it, since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." (Since "golden" and "deer" are in the final sentence of the paragraph, they're presumably covered by the citations there already.) BlueMoonset (talk) 19:09, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
