Template:Did you know nominations/Malcolm Guite

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 14:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Malcolm Guite

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The poet Malcolm Guite reading his work

... that the poet Malcolm Guite who grew up in Nigeria, Canada, and England, decided he belonged in England partly after discovering real ale—something he says "they don't have properly in Canada at all"?
... that the poet Malcolm Guite, who grew up in Nigeria, Canada, and England, decided he belonged in England partly after discovering real ale – something "they don't have properly in Canada at all"?

Comment: No QPQ required, exempt as this is only my 4th nomination.

Created by JackTheVicar (talk). Self-nominated at 18:25, 8 August 2015 (UTC).

Suggest rewriting the hook to something snappier, as it's a bit wordy and right on the 200-character limit. How about ... that the poet Malcolm Guite, who grew up in Nigeria, Canada, and England, decided he belonged in England partly after discovering real ale? Otherwise it passes the DYK criteria. Excellent work on the article, JackTheVicar! Taiwantaffy (talk) 12:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Taiwantaffy :: I'd like to find a way to keep the concluding quip about Canada because the citation adds a little bit that speaks volumes about Guite through his sense of humour. If it had to go, I'd understand, but I like the purposeful use of "properly" in his quote. Who doesn't like a quick innocuous dig at what Canadians deign to call beer? The hook reaches 200 characters only because a user preemptively added "the" before poet...apparently, a user named SchroCat complains on WP:ERRORS repeatedly insisting on adding "the" despite there being no grammatical mandate in British or American English for it. JackTheVicar (talk) 13:22, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

JackTheVicar: I'm not so sure we should mock the afflicted. Poor Canadians. How about ... that the poet Malcolm Guite, who grew up in Nigeria, Canada, and England, decided he belonged in England partly after discovering real ale – something "they don't have properly in Canada at all"? The quotation marks are enough of an indication that the man himself said it. So, I've removed "he says", and added a comma after his name to parcel off the parenthetical bit about where he grew up. Does that work? Taiwantaffy (talk) 14:12, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
JackTheVicar: Oh, and I think you could probably lose the last four words of the caption. Not essential to sign off on this though. Taiwantaffy (talk) 14:14, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Taiwantaffy :: the Canadians wouldn't be offended. They'd even apologize for being Canadians, eh? So we have ALT1: ... that the poet Malcolm Guite, who grew up in Nigeria, Canada, and England, decided he belonged in England partly after discovering real ale – something "they don't have properly in Canada at all"? JackTheVicar (talk) 17:46, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

OK, I think it's good to go. Taiwantaffy (talk) 08:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)