Template:Did you know nominations/Malawi–Malaysia relations

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The result was: promoted by Carabinieri (talk) 18:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC).

Malawi–Malaysia relations

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Reviewed: N/A (I'm newish here)

... that the first stop in Mahatir Mohammed's 1997 tour of Africa was to build Malawi–Malaysia relations?

5x expanded by 99of9 (talk). Self nom at 21:15, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure the hook as written is very good. Isn't there a fact in the article that might be better at catching readers' attention? Abyssal (talk) 19:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm open to alternate suggestions. I thought this was interesting because Malawi is not a very prominent country geopolitically, so it seems unusual for them to be his first priority. --99of9 (talk) 23:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, well, for one, the hook doesn't make clear who Mohammed was or why this matters. How about a hook based around that knowledge/technology exchange program? Abyssal (talk) 16:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the first stop in Malaysian Prime Minister Mahatir Mohammed's 1997 tour of Africa was to build Malaysia–Malawi relations?

ALT2: ... that Malaysia builds relations with Malawi by bringing in Malawian visitors as part of South-South programs it runs?

ALT 1's okay, but I just looked at the history of the article and this is supposed to be a 5x expansion but it looks like you only added about a hundred characters. What gives? Abyssal (talk) 17:52, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

An enormous chunk of copyvio text was removed on January 22, leaving 150 prose characters. Because a copyvio was involved, the expansion does not count the infringing characters in the number to start from. Since the article currently has 1672 prose characters according to DYKcheck, it meets both the minimum and the 5x expansion. One issue that needs attending to is that the article itself has two stub templates. (DYKcheck picked up on the stub issue.) If the article is no longer a stub, they should be removed; the nomination cannot pass while any stub templates are still valid. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I have classed as start and removed stub templates. --99of9 (talk) 21:57, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Everything in the article is in order. A newspaper article corroborates the hook fact. I think ALT1 is definitely more interesting than ALT2, but it is phrased a little awkwardly, so how about:

ALT3: ... that the first stop in Malaysian Prime Minister Mahatir Mohammed's 1997 tour of Africa was in Malawi?--Carabinieri (talk) 21:40, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

ALT4: ... that the first stop in Malaysian Prime Minister Mahatir Mohammed's 1997 tour of Africa was to build relations with Malawi?
In ALT3 I think it is hard to guess what the "In Malawi" article is going to be about. --99of9 (talk) 22:38, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

This article is okay to go. Abyssal (talk) 18:45, 26 February 2013 (UTC)