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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
… that the girls of the Mädchenkantorei Limburg performed choral sacred music by only contemporary composers together with a women's choir in a 2019 concert at the Limburg Cathedral(pictured)? Source: review
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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:14, 12 March 2019 (UTC).
ALT1... that the girls of the Mädchenkantorei Limburg joined a women's choir to perform sacred choral music by contemporary composers at a 2019 concert at Limburg Cathedral(pictured)?
QPQ: - Not done Overall: A neat little article which is well written and fully sourced. I've made some stylistic tweaks and added a reference for the final sentence. I've also tweaked the hook slightly at ALT1 so that it flows better. Just needs a QPQ, then I'm happy to give it the green light. Bermicourt (talk) 21:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that the girls of the Mädchenkantorei Limburg performed exclusively contemporary choral music in a 2019 concert at the Limburg Cathedral(pictured), joined with a women's choir? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
The English doesn't quite flow as smoothly as it should, especially "joined with a women's choir" which seems tacked on at the end. Here is a suggested minimal change. I can't really tell you why it sounds better; it just does.
ALT3: ... that the girls of the Mädchenkantorei Limburg, together with a women's choir, gave a performance of exclusively contemporary choral music in a 2019 concert at the Limburg Cathedral(pictured)? Bermicourt (talk) 21:33, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
If you say so, - why "gave a performance" vs. "performed"? I was a bit afraid that readers would not get to the "all contemporary" bit which is the most astonishing. I was there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
It's just "performed exclusively contemporary choral music" seems rather complex phrasing to me and may not be easy to follow; even a little confusing. For example, does the adverb "exclusively" modify "performed" or "contemporary choral music"? In changing it, I was trying to give your main emphasis on "all contemporary" a bit of breathing space. It's the "contemporary" that's exclusive, not the performance and I wanted to stress that. I've run the sentences past my wife and she concurred that the original sentence was difficult to make sense of, whereas the modification flowed better in her view. I've taken "the" out as well, we don't tend to use the definite article before proper names like Limburg Cathedral. All that said, I'm very happy to have another editor comment. Amazing that you were there - it must have been quite an experience! :) Bermicourt (talk) 10:16, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Understand, but how about shortening "gave a performance"? Could be "performed" or just "sang"? Trying.
ALT4: ... that the girls of the Mädchenkantorei Limburg, together with a women's choir, sang a concert of all contemporary music in a 2019 concert at Limburg Cathedral(pictured)? - I took "the" out, but think Limburg Cathedral is no proper name, just a bit sloppy for "Hoher Dom zu Limburg". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:08, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
for ALT4. That's fine. Sorry, I've been a bit slow responding. In English we almost always say "Foo Cathedral" without a definite article unlike German. The reason may be that, in German, the placename is clearly an adjective ("Limburger") whereas in English it is a noun being used as an adjective ("Limburg"). Anyway, good to go. Well done. Bermicourt (talk) 11:16, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Not done
A neat little article which is well written and fully sourced. I've made some stylistic tweaks and added a reference for the final sentence. I've also tweaked the hook slightly at ALT1 so that it flows better. Just needs a QPQ, then I'm happy to give it the green light. Bermicourt (talk) 21:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
for ALT4. That's fine. Sorry, I've been a bit slow responding. In English we almost always say "Foo Cathedral" without a definite article unlike German. The reason may be that, in German, the placename is clearly an adjective ("Limburger") whereas in English it is a noun being used as an adjective ("Limburg"). Anyway, good to go. Well done. Bermicourt (talk) 11:16, 5 May 2019 (UTC)