Template:Did you know nominations/Louis N. Stodder
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:22, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
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Louis N. Stodder
[edit]...that Louis Stodder was the USS Monitor's turret officer and the first person injured at the Battle of Hampton Roads surviving a direct hit to Monitor's gun turret. ....?
Created/expanded by Gwillhickers (talk). Self nominated at 18:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC).
Time length and hook all check out, GTG. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- The hook was incorrectly formatted in many different ways. Try:
- ... that Louis Stodder was the USS Monitor's turret officer and the first person injured at the Battle of Hampton Roads, surviving a direct hit to Monitor's gun turret? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:22, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to review. Just want to be clear on something. For purposes of the DYK presentation on the main page I used the full name, Louis Stodder, but the actual sentence (hook) on the ' Stodder page only uses the last name, as the full name is spelled out in the lede. Will this be okay? Again, thanks for your time. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- That's fine. There is no requirement that the hook be a verbatim replica of a statement from the article (in fact, many of the best hooks have different wording from their articles); the key thing is that the factual content of the hook must appear in the article.
- Note for DYK volunteers: No QPQ is required for this user yet. --Orlady (talk) 01:21, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
I am concerned that this article may include some close paraphrasing. Compare for example "Crockett overcame Stodder's innate modesty he persuade him to give a first-hand account of the birth, short life, and death of that famous ship" with "Mr. Crockett was able to overcome Captain Stodder's innate modsty and persuade him to give the following first-hand account of the birth, short life, and death of that famous ship" here. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:37, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Done have reworded the passage in question. let me know if you feel there are others. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:21, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- Nikkimaria gave you one example of the issue that she found. It's your responsibility to make sure that the article doesn't have other instances of WP:close paraphrasing (when there's one instance, there are often others). Also, the paragraph in question is lacking a reference citation. Presumably it should point to Civil War Times Illustrated, January 1963. --Orlady (talk) 19:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- Just added reference to C.W.T.I. I'll go over the article again to check on any other close paraphrasing aside from common terms, phrases and names. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, no one had told me someone had taken issue with the hook, and sorry for missing that bit of close paraphrasing. Will look over the article in a bit. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:27, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just added reference to C.W.T.I. I'll go over the article again to check on any other close paraphrasing aside from common terms, phrases and names. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well I have looked over it again and am not seeing any problems, copyvio tool say no issues and the hook is sourced, so good to go so far as I can see. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:32, 9 August 2013 (UTC)