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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:12, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

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Living on the Veg

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Created by J Milburn (talk). Self-nominated at 15:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - "garnering billions of views" is not supported by the source; I would suggest "garnering over a billion views." Also, "Every episode features a celebrity guest" is not supported by the listed source, which mentions only "guest" another source is needed to quantify the fame of the guest (they could have a non-famous academic as a guest one week). I'd suggest removing the word "celebrity."
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Waiting for identified QPQ to be completed.
On neutrality, the article reads a little on the positive side. I've had a quick search around but can't find any major critics at the moment. However, as with any show, I expect there will be some sources of negative opinion to consider after it has run for a while. For the moment it is a fair balance of the sources, so is a pass. From Hill To Shore (talk) 23:05, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

I have fixed the "billions" and "celebrity" issue; both fair comments. I'll post back when the QPQ review is complete. Josh Milburn (talk) 07:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
QPQ review complete, a whole minute later. Josh Milburn (talk) 07:27, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
I copied your bold/italic setting for the hook link to my own DYK but was told the link should be bold only. Is there any reason for the italics in this case? Other than that, I am happy to approve this whenever Whispyhistory is finished with their review. From Hill To Shore (talk) 17:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Yes - we italicise the titles of TV programmes (as well as books, films, magazines, etc.): see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles. Josh Milburn (talk) 18:27, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Reviewing...New enough, long enough, reads well, hook in article and followed by inline citation. Copyvio isn't working for me (will try later). You could have a hook about advertising meat during a vegan show. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:08, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
@From Hill To Shore:. I don't know what happened...please carry on a do the review. I quite enjoyed the article and thought the advert of meat during the first episode was odd. My earwig copyvio keeps telling me to try again later.
No problem, this is my first DYK review so having a second pair of eyes on it is useful. The Earwig copyvio tool has been down for a day or two due to a problem with the IP addresses. An issue report has been filed and some people with technical skills are working on it. I've read through all of the sources as part of the review and am satisfied that we have no copyvios here. ALT1 isn't to my personal taste but I don't see anything wrong with it from a practical standpoint. From looking at previous cases I assume I can approve both and someone later in the chain will decide which one to use. From Hill To Shore (talk) 18:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm not too keen on ALT1, but agree that there's potentially a good hook here. How about:

Looks good. Just check length. Whispyhistory (talk) 22:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
  • It comes in at 163 characters, so well within the 200 limit. Both original hook and ALT2 approved. From Hill To Shore (talk) 18:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but the chart needs some kind of sourcing per Rule D2. Where did you get this information? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:11, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I do not understand what you are saying. Please rephrase in plain English or, preferably, leave me alone. Spewing bureaucratic gibberish at me twice in a week after, to my knowledge, we've never met before? Why are you doing this? Josh Milburn (talk) 19:43, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @J Milburn: I don't understand. I'm a DYK editor who builds prep sets and promotes hooks from the Approved page. I want to promote your hook, but the chart in your article lacks citations. Perhaps you could note the source in which you found this information. Yoninah (talk) 21:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I am disengaging, and hope you will do the same. If you do not want to promote the hook, so be it. But perhaps you can keep this kind of thing to yourself in the future. Josh Milburn (talk) 22:52, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @J Milburn: I am shocked at your disregard of WP:AGF. I am also surprised that you see fit to argue with the editor who is promoting your hooks. In future, I think you should stop submitting hooks to DYK so you won't be disturbed. Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Replacing tick because the chart is a list of episodes and not a paragraph, and therefore Rule D2 does not apply. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:12, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
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