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The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 02:00, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

List of Green Bay Packers general managers

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~~... that even though he founded the team in 1919 and was its first head coach, Curly Lambeau did not become the first general manager of the Green Bay Packers until 1946?~~ Source: for the fact that he founded the team in 1919 (note the Wikipedia article says "since 1921, two years after their founding" while the hook says 1919, assume that basic math is permissible and for him being the first in 1946
- Reviewed: Matt Rempe and U.S. Route 101

Moved to mainspace by Gonzo fan2007 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/List of Green Bay Packers general managers; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - "even though" fails under MOS:EDITORIAL without sources supporting that there is a relationship between his being founder/head coach and his GM tenure. I don't immediately see a connection why his GM tenure would have been expected to be earlier. Also, the article currently says: In those early years as head coach, Lambeau managed the football operations of the Packers, which included acquiring players, negotiating contracts and serving as a spokesperson. This makes me wonder if he is considered the first de facto GM. Pro-football-reference.com list him as GM starting in 1936.[1] At an article from PackersNews.com, they attribute the GM tenures with "According to the Packers..."[2] Since the source in the WP list for the year is also Packers.com (not independent), I'm thinking there needs to be WP:INTEXT attribution for the year, given the circumstances. Or reword the hook w/o an exact year.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: —Bagumba (talk) 09:40, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

ALT1: ~~... that Vince Lombardi resigned as head coach of the Green Bay Packers after the 1967 NFL season but stayed on as the team's general manager for one more season?~~

Thoughts Bagumba? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: I don't find that one immediately catchy. The implication is that he was both coach and GM, which is a bit more interesting on it's own if it's explicitly stated that he held dual roles. Other options (not currently in the article, but in the source) might be 1) he quit coaching to focus on being GM 2) the packers needed to release him from being GM so he could return to coaching.—Bagumba (talk) 14:32, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that Vince Lombardi resigned as head coach of the Green Bay Packers after the 1967 NFL season to focus on his role as the team's general manager?

Bagumba, something like that? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007:: Yes, that would work. Instead of just mentioning 1967, consider adding that it was either after winning first 2 Super Bowls or being first to win 3 straight NFL titles. Unless it's overloading the hook? Your call.—Bagumba (talk) 15:12, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Bagumba, I am ok with ALT2 as it is listed now, thanks for the review. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

ALT2 approved.—Bagumba (talk) 14:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)