Template:Did you know nominations/Leptoconops torrens

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 17:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Leptoconops torrens

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~~... that infestations of Leptoconops torrens, or the black valley gnat, have halted construction and farming projects in California?~~

5x expanded by Steelwull (talk). Self-nominated at 01:01, 15 October 2019 (UTC).

Hi @Steelwull, for an expanded article to qualify for DYK, its character count needs to have increased 5x in the last seven days. As it stands right now, the article contains 5296 characters of readable prose; the oldest version of the article within that window contains 5209 characters of readable prose. The article would need to be expanded significantly in order to meet the 5x standard for DYK. Morgan695 (talk) 01:34, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Morgan695:, thank you for the comments! I will keep that in mind when editing and nominating future articles. Sorry for the inconvenience. (Although I did not create the article, since the information previously on it was copied word for word from the sources, I did rewrite most of the contents, however). Steelwull (talk) 01:10, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

@Steelwull: No worries. Marking this nomination as closed. Just for your awareness, if the article is promoted to Good article status, you would be able to re-submit it for consideration for DYK. Morgan695 (talk) 01:56, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Steelwull, any text that was a copyright violation does not count towards the pre-expansion amount (see WP:DYKSG#A4). This nomination may proceed if you had at least a five times expansion from what would be left after removing copyvios from the existing article. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:14, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

@Mandarax:, the previous contents were completely copied from one source, but the time frame was a little further back than a week, unfortunately. Thank you for the information, though! Steelwull (talk) 18:27, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

It looks like the revisions began on October 2, which means that the nomination should have been made on October 9, but didn't happen until October 15, six days late. As this is a first-time nominator, we may wish to grant an exception, which has been done with a reasonable frequency before for people new to DYK, especially up to a week late. (The expansion is over 5x going back to October 2, so it would be considered a long-enough expansion should the period be extended in this case.) BlueMoonset (talk) 23:54, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

I'm personally fine with that. Article otherwise meets DYK requirements (no concering pings on Earwigs, hook is cited in article, nominator is QPQ exempt). Morgan695 (talk) 00:08, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't see an inline citation for the hook fact. Also, some sources refer to this as the valley black gnat; should we be writing two different common names in the lead? Yoninah (talk) 21:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah:, for readability, I think it would be alright to use the common name rather than the scientific one, if that would be alright?Additionally, I've added a citation to the lead of the article from where this DYK fact came from. Thank you for the comments! Steelwull (talk) 22:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Steelwull: Thank you. Footnote 5 also seems a good source for the hook fact. I'm seeing much discrepancy in the common name of this insect, and would like you to sort it out. Some sources call it the black valley gnat, others the valley black gnat, as black gnat is a common name. Footnote 3 says it should not be called this at all. Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
@Yoninah: - Sorry for the late reply; I suppose that since many recent sources use the scientific name over any common ones it would be alright to just take the common name out as well, since it's only mentioned a couple times within the article itself. Steelwull (talk) 06:15, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

OK, I'll remove it from the article. So we'll go with:
ALT0a: ... that infestations of Leptoconops torrens have halted construction and farming projects in California?
Restoring tick per Morgan695's review. Yoninah (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2019 (UTC)