Template:Did you know nominations/Leonard Neale
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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Leonard Neale
- ... that Pope Pius VI named Leonard Neale (pictured) the coadjutor bishop of Baltimore in 1795, but Neale did not learn of this until 1800? Source: "He was appointed titular Bishop of Gortyna and Coadjutor, April 17, 1795, and was consecrated, December 7, 1800. The Bulls sent in 1795, and subsequently in duplicate, were lost. In January, 1800, they were forwarded for the third time, from Venice, by Cardinal Borgia and were received at Baltimore in the summer." (Chronology of the Catholic Hierarchy of the United States p. 373)
- ALT1:... that in 1800, Leonard Neale (pictured) became the first Catholic bishop to be consecrated in the United States? Source: "Finally, on December 8, 1800, he was consecrated by Bishop John Carroll. Archbishop Neale was the first bishop to be consecrated within the bounds of the United States." (Most Rev. Leonard Neale)
- Reviewed: Sanpoil River
Improved to Good Article status by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 22:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC).
- Article was nominated on same day as promotion to good article. No copyvios detected and duplication detector [1][2][3][4][5][6][7] reveal no close paraphrasing issues (AGF books and article scans which can't go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Hook is 135 characters long (ALT1 is 111); both are under 200 character max. and are interesting. Refs 12 (verifying the hook) and 7 (verifying ALT1) are reliable sources. QPQ done. Image is free and in public domain. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, I came by to promote ALT0. Please provide an inline cite to the sentence stating that Pope Pius named him in 1795. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Yoninah. There is an inline citation re: Pius (fn 21; Guilday 1924, p. 4). It occurs in the sentence following the sentence about Pius. As we may have discussed once before, I'm generally pretty wary of citation density, and if there's already an inline that supports a proposition, I don't a whole lot of benefit from duplicating it a little earlier in the paragraph. Ergo Sum 17:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ergo Sum: Thank you. But I have to stick to the rules at WP:DYK#Cited hook. Can you just add the inline citation until the DYK moves off the main page? Yoninah (talk) 18:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Touché. I haven't looked at the DYK rules in a while and didn't know they were so specific in requiring an inline at the end of the very sentence. I think that's a mildly absurd rule, but that's a question for another time. Thanks for pointing it out, Yoninah. Citation added. Ergo Sum 19:55, 29 December 2020 (UTC)