Template:Did you know nominations/Laudato si' (oratorio)
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:13, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
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Laudato si' (oratorio)
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Premiere on 6 November 2016
... that Peter Reulein conducted the premiere of his oratorio Laudato si', subtitled A Franciscan Magnificat, with more than 250 performers at the Limburg Cathedral (pictured)?Source: several
- Reviewed: Eutaw riot
- Comment: best 29 January, day of the - sold out - next performance
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:23, 26 December 2016 (UTC).
- Edwardx supplied the following:
- ALT1:
... that Peter Reulein conducted the premiere of his oratorio Laudato si', subtitled A Franciscan Magnificat, with more than 250 performers at Limburg Cathedral (pictured)? - My comment: there is no English version, so no subtitle in English that could be Italic, only the German Ein franziskanisches Magnificat, and you wouldn't say "at cathedral", so shouldn't say "at Limburg Cathedral", afaik. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Peter Reulein conducted the premiere of his oratorio Laudato si', described as a Franciscan Magnificat, with more than 250 performers at the Limburg Cathedral (pictured)?
- ALT3:
... that Peter Reulein conducted the premiere of his oratorio Laudato si', subtitled A Franciscan Magnificat, with more than 250 musicians at Limburg Cathedral (pictured)? - ALT4:
... that Peter Reulein conducted the premiere of his oratorio Laudato si', subtitled A Franciscan Magnificat, with more than 250 musical performers at Limburg Cathedral (pictured)?
The article is new and long enough, and I'd be down with ALT1 or ALT2, and I added ALT3. However, it needs some work with regards to references. Ref 6 is missing a date, and the "Premiere and reception" section needs more references in the text instead of just at the end of the paragraph, as it's hard to find names in the two online sources. FallingGravity 04:54, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- The details are in the offline source, and I can only guess the date, because I have a pdf of the paper clipping, without a date. 8 November seems most likely. In February, we will have more. Some think that singers are no musicians, - saying "the singers and the musicians" ;) - I added a new ref. - The detailed names are also in the program book, - should I cite that also? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- The date is not required, though it probably would be useful to those without the PDF. From a technical standpoint, singers are musicians, though you have a point that most people think of "musicians" as people who play instruments. Maybe "musical performers" would be better? I'll add that as another hook. Are the names (e.g. Maria Rosenkranz, Karin Mayle-Polivka, or Franz Fink) in your PDF newspaper article? (I don't see them in the online references.) If so, then you could copy that reference to specifically cover those sentences. FallingGravity 05:05, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- The details are in the offline source, and I can only guess the date, because I have a pdf of the paper clipping, without a date. 8 November seems most likely. In February, we will have more. Some think that singers are no musicians, - saying "the singers and the musicians" ;) - I added a new ref. - The detailed names are also in the program book, - should I cite that also? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- I added the program book as a ref for some of the names, and additionally the website of the organist as a ref for him being at the Westerwälder (from 2014) while he had been an assistant organist at the Limburg Cathedral before (from 2011), so knew the organ, which Andreas Boltz, who will play in Frankfurt, doesn't. The German Wikipedia didn't like mentioning the scheduled second performance, - how would you feel about that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Everything checks out, the article, the picture QPQ done. Any of the remaining hooks work, though I tend to prefer ALT4. FallingGravity 05:55, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I am less happy with the "musical performers" of ALT4, - it sounds redundant to me (who else, in an oratorio), and it also makes me think of musical performers, comparable to opera singers. I do hope for an image, - just had one for a simple short hymn, and this a major work of the 21th century. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- I added the program book as a ref for some of the names, and additionally the website of the organist as a ref for him being at the Westerwälder (from 2014) while he had been an assistant organist at the Limburg Cathedral before (from 2011), so knew the organ, which Andreas Boltz, who will play in Frankfurt, doesn't. The German Wikipedia didn't like mentioning the scheduled second performance, - how would you feel about that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
