Template:Did you know nominations/La Passion selon Sade
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 18:00, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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La Passion selon Sade
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Cathy Berberian in 1972
- ... that for La Passion selon Sade, the first opera by Sylvano Bussotti, the composer was also the director and the designer of set and costumes? Source: [1]
- ALT1:... that in the 1965 premiere of Bussotti's opera La Passion selon Sade, Cathy Berberian (pictured) portrayed two characters by de Sade, Justine and Juliette? Source: + [2]
- Reviewed: La Venuta
- Comment: The original says more of Bussotti, and the ALT goes with the pic. Sadly we have no image of Bussotti at the time. The Italian Wikipedia has one of both, it:File:Berberian and Bussotti.jpg, which would be good for both. GRuban, what do you think? - I wonder if our general readers will understand that the title, alluding to the Passion of Jesus combined with the Marquis de Sade, was regarded as a sacrilege then (and had to be changed for the next performance), but we can only hope for some education, - I see no room in a hook. - This article is dedicated to LouisAlain, in memory of great collaboration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:57, 29 September 2021 (UTC).
- Seems straightforward, and a much more dramatic hook, honestly.
- ALT2 ... that the title of the opera La Passion selon Sade, combining the Passion of Jesus with infamous sexual deviant Marquis de Sade, caused a scandal and had to be changed for the next performance? However the image won't illustrate the hook very well - Berberian looks like a nice little old lady, not like Justine or Juliette! The one of Bussotti and Berberian will be a bit better, if deceptive, since Bussotti looks a bit like what we imagine Sade to, but didn't appear in the play as Sade! I will copy it to Commons, and drop it here when done. --GRuban (talk) 13:21, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the offer, but I think we need Bussotti's name somewhere in the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that the title of the opera La Passion selon Sade, combining the Passion of Jesus with infamous sexual deviant Marquis de Sade, caused a scandal and had to be changed for the next performance? However the image won't illustrate the hook very well - Berberian looks like a nice little old lady, not like Justine or Juliette! The one of Bussotti and Berberian will be a bit better, if deceptive, since Bussotti looks a bit like what we imagine Sade to, but didn't appear in the play as Sade! I will copy it to Commons, and drop it here when done. --GRuban (talk) 13:21, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- Seems straightforward, and a much more dramatic hook, honestly.
Cathy Berberian and Sylvano Bussotti
- ALT3 ... that the title of Sylvano Bussotti's (pictured, with star Cathy Berberian) opera La Passion selon Sade, caused a scandal and had to be changed for the next performance?
- My take:
- ALT3a: ... that the "scandalous" title of La Passion selon Sade, a 1965 opera composed, directed and designed by Sylvano Bussotti with star Cathy Berberian (both pictured) had to be changed for the next performance? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:51, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that the title of Sylvano Bussotti's (pictured, with star Cathy Berberian) opera La Passion selon Sade, caused a scandal and had to be changed for the next performance?
This article is new enough and long enough. The original image is not in the article and so cannot be used. The other image is in the public domain. Approving ALT3 and ALT3a, but I think ALT3 is better. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:47, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
