Template:Did you know nominations/Kum-A-Kye
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:21, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
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Kum-A-Kye
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British South Africa Police emblem
- ... that "Kum-A-Kye" was the regimental march of the Rhodesian British South Africa Police (crest pictured)? Gibbs, Peter (2000). The history of the British South Africa Police, 1889-1980 (2 ed.). Something of Value. p. 244
- Reviewed: Church of Reinhardtsgrimma
- Comment: Would be good to hold for 31 July (anniversary of BSAP disbanding) but will understand if too far.
Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 10:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough. I am unclear on the status of the image, it is on Wikipedia not Commons and appears to be out of copyright in the source country but text lower down indicates a fair use. Is it, in fact, out of Crown Copyright? Please clarify. Hook is correctly formatted. Linked British South Africa Police. Article is well referenced and neutral. There is a use at the end of a term some might find offensive but it is not given undue prominence. I wonder about the distinction made between Black Africans and White Rhodesians which jars a little. Is that the wording used in the offline source? AGF on the offline sources. I detected no close paraphrasing or copyvios. Regarding the use of the N word, the article states that the lyrics that John Edmond used included a censored version of the verse. Isn't the censoring something put on later by someone else, possibly iTunes and in fact Edmond used the word? If he hadn't it would not need to be censored. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- .@Philafrenzy: With regard to the image, the fair use wording was from the original upload in 2007 and since then the copyright expired in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. I don't think Crown Copyright applies necessarily here as the BSAP did remain as the police of Zimbabwe for a few months so it can be reasonably assumed that the British government transferred it to Zimbabwe. I did upload a version to commons with the same title. I have reworded the black and white line as the source mentions the band were predominantly black but no mention of whites. Likewise reworded the n-word line as I can't determine who censored it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 21:54, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Philafrenzy:? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
- .@Philafrenzy: With regard to the image, the fair use wording was from the original upload in 2007 and since then the copyright expired in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. I don't think Crown Copyright applies necessarily here as the BSAP did remain as the police of Zimbabwe for a few months so it can be reasonably assumed that the British government transferred it to Zimbabwe. I did upload a version to commons with the same title. I have reworded the black and white line as the source mentions the band were predominantly black but no mention of whites. Likewise reworded the n-word line as I can't determine who censored it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 21:54, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Not really sure why it matters what colour the policemen were so I removed it from the article since it is, in any case, in doubt. I also removed the N word since mentioning it seems to serve no function and we are unsure who bleeped it. Hope that's OK. It's ready to go. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:19, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
- On a minor extra point to the promoter, the image was under Crown Copyright as created by the British government in Southern Rhodesia which has since expired so it is PD. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 13:26, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
