Template:Did you know nominations/Kia Steave-Dickerson

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:37, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Kia Steave-Dickerson

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... ~~that Kia Steave-Dickerson has worked as a property master for three of M. Night Shyamalan's films?~~ "Steave-Dickerson was assistant prop master for Shyamalan's Philadelphia-based films 'The Sixth Sense,' 'Unbreakable' and 'Signs' and scenic for 'Wide Awake.'"Steave-Dickerson happy at 'Trading Spaces'
Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT1:... ~~that Kia Steave-Dickerson was described as "the funk diva" by M. Night Shyamalan for her work in his films?~~Source: Her behind-the-scenes work drew the attention of Academy Award-nominated director M. Night Shyamalan, who called Steave-Dickerson "the funk diva." In the book "Trading Spaces Behind the Scenes," he said "She makes our movie sets more vibrant with her exotic electricity." Steave-Dickerson happy at 'Trading Spaces'

Reviewed: Cynthia B. Lee

Created by Aoba47 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:27, 20 October 2017 (UTC).

Hi, Aoba47. I'll begin reviewing this nomination below:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems: - My minor concern is quote overuse, but not in a way that skews neutrality. I don't feel the "consistent and simplistic, yet bold and creative" quote has enough context in its current state. If this is a consensus among critics (published by Metacritic), then something like "Critics have said her design style is 'consistent and … '" may be more appropriate? Otherwise I'm not sure how to know if this is self-published. The personal quote in #Early life seems fine, but the "These are people who need …" at the end of #Career could be paraphrased into the preceding sentence.

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting: - Not sure the way it's presented is interesting, and ALT1 could read as negative without the full quote from Shyamalan. Feel free to alter the original or suggest alternatives, but here's a random one…
ALT2: ... that Kia Steave-Dickerson, a design artist for four films by M. Night Shyamalan, originally intended to study dry cleaning? Using Bonett 2003 for both parts.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is eligible. A policy concern is presented and looking into making the hook more interesting. – Rhinopias (talk) 23:08, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I have addressed the concerns about the use of quotes, and I prefer your proposal (i.e. ALT2) as it is much more appropriate for the front page. I think that I actually had added in that detail about the dry-cleaning after putting together this DYK so I had struggled with making an interesting hook with the article that I had at that time, but I would be more than happy to have ALT2 be used for the main page. Aoba47 (talk) 23:28, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Makes sense – I'm satisfied with the hook then. I still think that the number of quotes in the article is distracting. Addressing these would resolve that:

"She makes our movie sets more vibrant with her exotic electricity." – maybe something like "Shyamalan praised her designs and described her as 'the funk diva', recognizing the energetic presence her personality brings to his sets."?
"favorite part of transforming rooms on Trading Spaces is coming up with a theme and then accessioning the rooms"
"I'd rather not even talk about that." – vague, but the "another homeowner nightmare" is appropriate

– Rhinopias (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the comments. I have removed some of the quotes and revised others. Aoba47 (talk) 01:18, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

All set to go with ALT2. Looks good! – Rhinopias (talk) 23:27, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 01:01, 28 October 2017 (UTC)