Template:Did you know nominations/Khirbet el-Qutt

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BorgQueen talk 11:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Khirbet el-Qutt

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... that hiding complexes from the Bar Kokhba revolt were found in Khirbet el-Qutt and other places in ancient Samaria?

Source: "Khirbet el-Qutt -A Fortified Jewish Village in Southern Samaria from the Second Temple Period and the Bar Kokhba Revolt"; "Jewish Settlement in the Toparchy of Acraba during the Second Temple Period - The Archaeological Evidence". Judea and Samaria Research Studies8. 18: 177–200 – via academia.edu; "תולדות היישוב בהר שומרון בתקופה הרומית־ביזנטית". kotar.cet.ac.il. Retrieved 2024-05-21.

Reviewed:

Created by Owenglyndur (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Owenglyndur (talk) 13:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC).

I have begun the review process of this DYK, and the hook seems good and accurate, based on the sources cited. The article is also new enough, having been created on 21 May 2024.

Article length and age are fine; no copyright violations or plagiarism concerns; reliable sources are used. The article, however, can be improved by using the common spelling "archaeological" (instead of "archeological"). This will bring uniformity in spelling, as, currently, both spellings are used in the article.Davidbena (talk) 00:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

A suggested improvement might be to add the word "underground" in the hook, even though the link explains what is meant by "hiding complexes." Most editors will not click onto the link, and therefore it is helpful to add this clarification at the very outset. For example, ALT1 ... that underground hiding complexes from the Bar Kokhba revolt were found in Khirbet el-Qutt and other places in ancient Samaria? (End Quote).Davidbena (talk) 01:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Davidbena: I just removed a copyright violation from the article and will be asking for the effected revisions to be deleted. I have not yet check the rest of the article, but given a COPYVIO issue here and on other articles by User:OwenGlyndur (see the revision history of Ein Gedi synagogue and Ein Gedi archaeological site) I recommend that this nomination should be declined until we are confident that the remainder of this article does not breach WP:COPYVIO. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. I overlooked the copyright violation. If the creator of this article wishes to rewrite (paraphrase) the sections that he plagiarized, there can be some redress to what was done.Davidbena (talk) 21:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Note that after the recent copyvio deletions, the article at 1335 prose characters is too short to qualify for DYK (1500 prose character minimum). If it hasn't been expanded sufficiently within seven days, it should be marked as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Owenglyndur: Have you addressed the above? Z1720 (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

@Owenglyndur: This is currently above 1500 characters, however there are currently multiple maintenance templates within the article and these need rectifying.--Laun chba ller 08:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer:I have addresses you comments Owenglyndur (talk) 08:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Fine by me. I'm not seeing 'and other places' in the article and I'd probably lose both it and 'from the Bar Kokhba revolt' per WP:DYKTRIM. The rest would need an end-of-sentence citation.--Laun chba ller 08:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I asked for this a week ago and this hasn't been done. There are also new CLOP tags on the article and the nominator's been indeffed. I think we're done here.--Laun chba ller 13:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)