Template:Did you know nominations/Ken Whitlock
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 01:34, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ken Whitlock
- ... that American Ken Whitlock played football in Canada because of segregation in the United States? Source: "'In June 1948 a high-school teammate, Bates Ford, suggested I try out for the Toronto Argonauts,' wrote Ken Sr. 'With professional football in America still mostly segregated, I saw this as a way to make it in the world of sports, a world that was closed to me in the States.'"(Argonauts.ca)
- Reviewed: Lori Gramlich
Created by Bagumba (talk). Self-nominated at 17:45, 27 August 2021 (UTC).
- Comment: the hook is missing a couple of important details, in my opinion. It should include the year to set context for segregation; it should mention that Whitlock was Black (i.e. a target of segregation); and I'd consider linking to Racial segregation in the United States. Proposed alt: ... that in 1948 African American athlete Ken Whitlock played football in Canada because of segregation in the United States?. pburka (talk) 21:37, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pburka: Thanks for your feedback. However, I think the original hook has more potential to draw the reader to the main article per WP:DYKHOOK:
... please make it "hooky", that is, short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article — as long as they don't misstate the article content.
I'm wary of too many links and details that leave less incentive to read the actual article. I don't believe there are any WP:NPOV issues or that it is misleading in a destructive way.—Bagumba (talk) 01:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pburka: Thanks for your feedback. However, I think the original hook has more potential to draw the reader to the main article per WP:DYKHOOK:
- Comment: the hook is missing a couple of important details, in my opinion. It should include the year to set context for segregation; it should mention that Whitlock was Black (i.e. a target of segregation); and I'd consider linking to Racial segregation in the United States. Proposed alt: ... that in 1948 African American athlete Ken Whitlock played football in Canada because of segregation in the United States?. pburka (talk) 21:37, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Newly created article, long enough and well sourced. Neutrally written, no sign of any policy problems. Hook fact is interesting enough, and while more detail could be added, I tend to agree with Bagumba that hooks should be short and sweet to draw in more readers. QPQ is done. Good to go. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:47, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
