Template:Did you know nominations/Kate Pier
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The result was: rejected by Yoninah (talk) 19:46, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator
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Kate Pier
[edit]- ... that Kate Pier was the first woman in the United States to be conferred with judicial powers? Source: "In 1893 she was appointed a circuit court commissioner for Milwaukee County. This was the first instance in the United States of judicial powers being conferred on a woman" ([1]) (in the article there are three other sources, some more recent)
- ALT1:... that in 1891 Kate Pier and her three daughters, Kate, Harriet and Caroline, represented one half of the women lawyers in Wisconsin? Source: "In 1891 the remaining Pier daughters, Caroline and Harriet, joined the family law firm in Milwaukee. The four Pier women made up one-half of the women attorneys in Wisconsin at that time" ([2])
Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 20:19, 15 September 2017 (UTC).
Everything seems good. Article length and age are good, no copyright issues, and everything is sourced well. The length is good, and the nominator had reviewed another article. I like the first hook better. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 21:18, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
@Elisa.rolle: I can't promote this because I am not satisfied that the hook fact is accurate. Esther Hobart Morris was said to be the first justice of the peace in the US in 1870 and now you are saying that Kate Pier was the first woman to be conferred with judicial powers, and that was in 1892. She is not mentioned in our article Women in the United States judiciary nor in this source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:36, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- first, there are 4 source in the article all saying the same, but if they are deemed too "old", this one [3] is from 1985.
- but second, and more important, please withdraw this DYK, thank you. Elisa.rolle (talk) 09:03, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Marking for closure at nominator's request. We have to be very careful with "first" claims. I agree that there are four citations all attesting the fact, but they are all local newspapers and I guess that they are echoing each other. For such a wide claim, you really need a national source, such as the one I gave above. Also, the term "judicial powers" is very imprecise. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:26, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
