Template:Did you know nominations/Juliet Nightingale

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 11:45, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Juliet Nightingale

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• ... that when Hollyoaks changed Juliet Nightingale's appearance for a storyline involving drugs, actress Niamh Blackshaw was glad to get rid of her character's side ponytail? Source:

Created by DarkGlow (talk). Self-nominated at 12:45, 23 March 2021 (UTC).

• Date (as a GA), length and hook all fine. However @DarkGlow:, the Storylines section is completely unsourced and that needs to be fixed before this can proceed. QPQ not needed as the nominator only has 1 credit and no close paraphrasing. Please ping me once that is sorted and I will have another look. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:42, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@The C of E: On WP:SOAPS, it is stated that "storyline sections do not require sourcing, as the programme itself acts as the source. These sections can be verified by watching the series." Therefore, it's very rare that a storyline section of a soap character will ever have inline citations. 99% of the section is sourced in the development/relationship sections, but if it's still going to be an issue despite the consensus on WP:SOAPS, the section can technically be removed as it's not essential imo, but I see no reason to do that. – DarkGlow • 09:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm a little unsure as to how that WikiProject guidance stands up compared to WP:BURDEN. It has to be more that "just watch the programme" in my book. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@The C of E: MOS:TVPLOT, while not specifically about fictional characters, is applicable to talking about the plot of a series. It states that plot "may be sourced from the works themselves". The work is the series, which acts as the series. – DarkGlow • 12:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

• @The C of E: From prior precedent, it seems that plot-related sections are exempt from the "every paragraph needs a citation" rule, unless the hook has to do with a plot point or if there is plot-related analysis. I haven't taken a look at the article yet, but if there are no other issues this should probably be allowed to move forward. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 04:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

@The C of E: WP:DYKSG#D2 also suggests that plot summaries do not need to be cited. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

OK, I bow to your experience on that, still seems a little out of kilter with standard practice but good to go then. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

The C of E I have always known it to be standard practice per the manual of style. SL93 (talk) 05:24, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

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