Template:Did you know nominations/Julie Wera

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The result was: promoted by Jack Frost (talk) 11:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Julie Wera

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Julie Wera

... that an imposter who pretended to be Julie Wera (pictured) claimed that he did not look like Wera because he had plastic surgery to reconstruct his face after a mine detonation during World War II?
ALT1 ... that an imposter who pretended to be Julie Wera (pictured) to work in baseball was discovered after he died by suicide?

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5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 19:06, 7 July 2021 (UTC).

Comment How's ALT2 below? ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 17:51, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that an imposter who pretended to be Julie Wera (pictured) to work in the Oroville Red Sox was discovered after he died by suicide?
Review: DYK check is okay. No issues with copyright. Prose is readable. Recently expanded. The hook (ALT2) that I suggested above seems the best, and is interesting imo and is inline cited in the article. ~~QPQ is required. Muboshgu, please update with the QPQ once done~~ and I'll approve this. ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 17:38, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Had forgotten about this. @TheAafi: QPQ provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:58, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

QPQ has been provided and this is good to go. The image of Julie that has been used is PD. ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 04:03, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Sending this back quick: neither ALT1 or 2 make sense, ALT 0 unclear. For ALT1/2: was the person (who is not the subject of the hook!) discovered to be an imposter when his dead body was found, or is it simply saying that he killed himself and then (naturally) someone found his body? The first possibility needs to be detailed, the second is no more than saying he died, which most dead people did and so would be a non-hook even if it were actually about Wera. Seriously, "person who kinda looked like this guy died" is what passes for a DYK nom now? And ALT0 is unclear: did Wera or the imposter have plastic surgery? Kingsif (talk) 07:03, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Kingsif, the newspapers reported that "Julie Wera", the former baseball player working as an executive in California, had died by suicide. The real Julie Wera was working as a butcher in Minnesota and went to the press when he found out that people thought he was dead. From there, the story came out about how this guy conned people who had known the real Julie Wera to get the job in the first place. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:33, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: thanks for clarifying. So perhaps ALT3 ... that the real Julie Wera was found alive and well after his imposter's suicide?
or the nice and fun ALT4 ... that reports of Julie Wera's suicide were greatly exaggerated?
ALT2 would also work if "to be an imposter" was added after "discovered". Kingsif (talk) 11:38, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Kingsif, ALTs 3 and 4 work for me. Your proposed change of ALT 2 would make sense but seems to be repetitive with the two uses of "imposter", "the imposter was discovered to be an imposter". – Muboshgu (talk) 18:33, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

With nominator's approval, needs a review of alts 3 and 4. Kingsif (talk) 12:09, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Both ALT3 and ALT4 meet requirements and look good. Thanks to everyone who worked to get this nom ready for approval! BuySomeApples (talk) 01:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

@Kingsif, BuySomeApples, and Muboshgu: I'll promote ALT4—I'd rather put it as the last hook, rather than the lead hook, but if it is the lead hook with an image, than we should add "(pictured)" to the hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC)