Template:Did you know nominations/Jules Meysmans
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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 04:18, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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Jules Meysmans
- ... that although Jules Meysmans invented an entire language, he is best known for his invention of one word? Source: Gobbo, Frederico (2023-10-20). Beletra Almanako 46 (BA46 - Literaturo en Esperanto) (in Esperanto). Mondial. p. 102. ISBN 978-1-59569-450-8.
atesto estas la lingvopropono ke Meysmans publikis in 1912... ironie, estas mallonga artikolo verkita de la belgo, kiu garantias al li la lokon en la historio de interlingvistiko.. [li estis] la inventino de la vorto "interlingvistiko" [for example the language proposal that Meysmans published in 1912... ironicaly, it's the short article written by the Belgian that guarantees him a place in the history of interlinguistics... [he was] the inventor or the word "interlinguistics]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1997 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade
- Comment: I realise, and apologise for the fact that I'm a day late in nominating this, but as I'm fairly sure this article is only ever going to get once shot at being on DYK, I'd like to request a day's grace in the hope that it could be considered. If this doesn't automatically fail, and the hook is considered too boring, there's an option of writing about his system being used in Kinshasa.
Created by Frzzl (talk). Self-nominated at 22:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jules Meysmans; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I'm happy to IAR on the window: it seems like a good hook. Article generally seems in good shape, well cited. I would add a link to the hook to say which language he invented. Indeed, I can't immediately find that in either the article or the source, though I can see a few possibilities in the former. Images in the article are of questionable US PD status: have a look at Commons:Hirtle chart to see if you can find a suitable license, and amend if so. We can't put content on the main page that may be in violation of copyright. UndercoverClassicist T·C 16:50, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! Regarding the specific language, I'm using "an entire language" to refer to "Interlatino" - this could be linked to Pan-Romance language, but I think it's probably better to leave it unlinked (Gobbo calls it "epheremal" in the source; it's not notable enough for a full article.) Alternatively we could link "invented an entire language" to constructed language, although that could perhaps make it a bit difficult to read. You're correct about the US PD - I messed up on the URAA dates, and they've been deleted; I've reuploaded the example of the shorthand under Free Use as I think it's fairly vital to illustrating and understanding the text. Frzzl talk; contribs 21:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: - been a few days, just pinging you in case you didn't see this Frzzl talk; contribs 15:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- . Thank you; I had seen, but forgot to respond. Honestly, I think the fair use rationale is a bit of a stretch (we generally accept fair use if the image itself is the subject of the article, or if it's the image of someone who can never have a free-use image made of them; there's a couple too many steps here for this to really be comparable), but I'm happy that it's good enough as far as DYK is concerned. Happy that the fact is in the article and cited. Happy to Approve on that basis.
- @UndercoverClassicist: - been a few days, just pinging you in case you didn't see this Frzzl talk; contribs 15:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! Regarding the specific language, I'm using "an entire language" to refer to "Interlatino" - this could be linked to Pan-Romance language, but I think it's probably better to leave it unlinked (Gobbo calls it "epheremal" in the source; it's not notable enough for a full article.) Alternatively we could link "invented an entire language" to constructed language, although that could perhaps make it a bit difficult to read. You're correct about the US PD - I messed up on the URAA dates, and they've been deleted; I've reuploaded the example of the shorthand under Free Use as I think it's fairly vital to illustrating and understanding the text. Frzzl talk; contribs 21:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)