Template:Did you know nominations/Ju Zheng
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:53, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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Ju Zheng
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Ju Zheng
- ... that Ju Zheng (pictured) was persuaded to oppose Chiang Kai-shek's candidacy for president of China in 1948 and received 10 percent of the vote in the National Assembly, with Chiang elected overwhelmingly?
Created/expanded by H. Humbert (talk). Self-nominated at 11:20, 6 December 2015 (UTC).
Article is new enough, long enough, and neutral. The article (including the hook) is almost entirely sourced to p. 378 of The Correspondence of G. E. Morrison 1912-1920. I retrieved the page on Google books [1], and can't find anything about Ju Zheng at all. Is that the correct page? Also, the article does not mention anything about the study of English-language literature, why not just say he co-founded Tamkang University? -Zanhe (talk) 05:20, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, it should be page 393. H. Humbert (talk) 09:42, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, got it. The book uses the Wade-Giles spelling Chu Cheng, that's why my search didn't find the correct page. I've added a direct url to the page. The "English-language literature" part of the hook still needs to be addressed. -Zanhe (talk) 19:52, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for changing the hook. As the Tamkang source is not accessible online, I tried to verify the info on Tamkang University's website. However, the university's history page does not mention Ju Zheng as a founder. The Chinese wiki page also does not say anything about his founding the university. Could you please explain the discrepancy? -Zanhe (talk) 09:28, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- The school calls him "Chueh Sheng (覺生)".[2] I am not sure why. H. Humbert (talk) 13:08, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, Chueh-sheng is a courtesy name.[3] H. Humbert (talk) 13:30, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for changing the hook. As the Tamkang source is not accessible online, I tried to verify the info on Tamkang University's website. However, the university's history page does not mention Ju Zheng as a founder. The Chinese wiki page also does not say anything about his founding the university. Could you please explain the discrepancy? -Zanhe (talk) 09:28, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- The hook is not supported, so far as I can tell, by an inline citation. Can you fix this? Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- How's this? Morrison mentions the election too, but this is more detailed and includes the vote count. H. Humbert (talk) 01:54, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- That works -- and what if we slightly alter the sentence in the article to "Ju was persuaded to oppose Chiang's candidacy and received 10 percent of the vote in the National Assembly, with Chiang elected overwhelmingly." Would that be an improvement? Sorry to be so fussy about this hook-supported-by-footnote issue, but it has caused a lot of drama recently on DYK Talk with live hooks pulled from the Front Page by an Admin who drums on about how all the fact-checking has become unconscionably lazy. Just want to avoid that. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 02:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- It's all the same to me, I suppose. H. Humbert (talk) 07:21, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- Alright, have updated the article accordingly per the online citation. DYK hook is fully supported. BlueMoonset, we should be GTG. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 17:19, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- It's all the same to me, I suppose. H. Humbert (talk) 07:21, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- That works -- and what if we slightly alter the sentence in the article to "Ju was persuaded to oppose Chiang's candidacy and received 10 percent of the vote in the National Assembly, with Chiang elected overwhelmingly." Would that be an improvement? Sorry to be so fussy about this hook-supported-by-footnote issue, but it has caused a lot of drama recently on DYK Talk with live hooks pulled from the Front Page by an Admin who drums on about how all the fact-checking has become unconscionably lazy. Just want to avoid that. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 02:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- How's this? Morrison mentions the election too, but this is more detailed and includes the vote count. H. Humbert (talk) 01:54, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
