Template:Did you know nominations/Josiane Lima
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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 15:03, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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Josiane Lima
... that rower Josiane Lima has competed at every Paralympic Games that has featured her sport, being proud to represent queer indigenous women in sport, and won Brazil's first rowing medal?
ALT1: ... that rower Josiane Lima has competed at every Paralympic Games that has featured her sport, and won Brazil's first rowing medal?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/L'An 2440, rêve s'il en fut jamais
- Comment: Various sources in article. Open to other hook ideas/refactoring the suggestion.
Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 05:36, 15 January 2023 (UTC).
Article new enough and long enough. Well-referenced throughout, hook is verified with 2 sources. QPQ done, copyvio says no. The Brazilian sources seems to only say "first Paralympic rowing medal", though, not "first rowing medal"?. Added an ALT1 as "proud" is sort of subjective. Juxlos (talk) 12:44, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: I think at least one of the sources says something like "Brazil's first medal in her sport", I can't remember if in Portuguese or English, though I guess you can also go through Brazil at the Summer Olympics and see there haven't been any rowing medals there ;) - and in the ESPN mini-doc, she says proud (orgulhosa) several times, for what it's worth - but I would be fine with the alt. Kingsif (talk) 22:16, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
oh yeah, found it in the Portuguese source. Juxlos (talk) 23:17, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Striking ALT0 for posterity. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: I think at least one of the sources says something like "Brazil's first medal in her sport", I can't remember if in Portuguese or English, though I guess you can also go through Brazil at the Summer Olympics and see there haven't been any rowing medals there ;) - and in the ESPN mini-doc, she says proud (orgulhosa) several times, for what it's worth - but I would be fine with the alt. Kingsif (talk) 22:16, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Kingsif and Juxlos: "competed at every Paralympic Games that has featured her sport" it appears in the lead, but not in the body. And the given references do not state this from what I can see. Foreign language source translated. Bruxton (talk) 19:01, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Bruxton: I can't remember what is and what isn't in that source, it's a bit long for me to go over right now - but did you check the one right next to it? Because that's all it says. Of course, re. appearing in body text, I thought I had included it with the last paragraph of the career section, apparently not. I suppose it is perhaps asking too much to consider mentions of her competing in each of those Paralympic Games to convey the superlative - will incorporate. Kingsif (talk) 04:14, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Bruxton: Check the tweet by WorldRowing (footnote no 2). Juxlos (talk) 04:58, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Juxlos I saw but it is a WP:UGC Bruxton (talk) 15:16, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Due to the author of the Tweet, it is classified under WP:SELFSOURCE, and I believe that the org that runs the events is as good as you can get as a primary source. Juxlos (talk) 17:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Kingsif It is a tweet from World Rowing so I do not know if it is Selfsource, but if it were a tweet from the Paralympic Games? I do not see it on their site, or in other RS. I will ask for an opinion from RoySmith. Bruxton (talk) 18:39, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not exactly sure what I'm being asked here, but in general, tweets are not WP:RS, and the medianija source is an interview, so that's generally not a WP:RS either. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:02, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Kingsif It is a tweet from World Rowing so I do not know if it is Selfsource, but if it were a tweet from the Paralympic Games? I do not see it on their site, or in other RS. I will ask for an opinion from RoySmith. Bruxton (talk) 18:39, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Due to the author of the Tweet, it is classified under WP:SELFSOURCE, and I believe that the org that runs the events is as good as you can get as a primary source. Juxlos (talk) 17:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Juxlos I saw but it is a WP:UGC Bruxton (talk) 15:16, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Kingsif and Juxlos: "competed at every Paralympic Games that has featured her sport" it appears in the lead, but not in the body. And the given references do not state this from what I can see. Foreign language source translated. Bruxton (talk) 19:01, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
@RoySmith: Tweets from random people, no, but a tweet from World Rowing? Come on. And the midia Ninja source isn't just an interview, it's like a profile that incorporates an interview - and it's a very respected independent outlet, especially covering women. If these aren't considered RS, something is wrong. Kingsif (talk) 01:48, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- If determined unacceptable, maybe a second ALT:
- ALT2: ... that Paralympic rower Josiane Lima won Brazil's first rowing medal?
- Juxlos (talk) 01:24, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Happy to continue with reviewer, but adding this so that it returns to the noms page. Kingsif (talk) 15:38, 25 January 2023 (UTC)- Well that doesn't seem to have worked, ping @Bruxton:; while we're here, to anyone, is it possible to mark this as a special occasion hook for women's day? I know we're doing a set or two for that. Kingsif (talk) 06:45, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
