Template:Did you know nominations/Josephine Silone Yates
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The result was: promoted by Orlady (talk) 20:02, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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Josephine Silone Yates
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- ... that educator Josephine Silone Yates (pictured) was also a chemist, journalist, poet and president of the National Association of Colored Women?
- ALT1:... that Josephine Silone Yates (pictured) was the first black woman to head a college science department?
- Reviewed: Buildings and architecture of Brighton and Hove
- Comment: Not a self-nom, but I'm listing one of my own reviews as a QPQ
- Comment: Suitable for either Black History Month (February) or Women's History Month (March)
Created by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Nominated by Maile66 (talk) at 19:11, 20 February 2014 (UTC).
Hi! The article looks good (new, well-sourced etc.). The image is also correctly licensed and fine for inclusion. The hook is within the limit. Personally I prefer the original hook, but my slight beef (my inner pedant, I suppose) is that the term "educator" doesn't actually mean anything - consider perhaps substituting with "teacher" but it might actually be better without it altogether. Either way, it's good to go. Brigade Piron (talk) 17:42, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review. I don't think "teacher" is quite adequate, since she had "a full professorship" and was also a university department head. But without either one in that original hook, it omits a large part of who she was. Maybe Mary Mark Ockerbloom has some perspective on this.— Maile (talk) 18:24, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
- I would be happy with either the original or the ALT1 hook; I do think that 'educator' is understandable and a broader term than 'teacher', and therefore preferable given the many things she did. Thanks to everyone for the nomination and for working on this! Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 21:06, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review. I don't think "teacher" is quite adequate, since she had "a full professorship" and was also a university department head. But without either one in that original hook, it omits a large part of who she was. Maybe Mary Mark Ockerbloom has some perspective on this.— Maile (talk) 18:24, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
*ALT2 ... that professor of chemistry Josephine Silone Yates (pictured) was also a journalist, poet and president of the National Association of Colored Women?- Maybe that solves the problem? Also wikified NACW, as I think that's better.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:23, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- I prefer the original. She did more in the education field than teach chemistry, and she also taught other subjects. "Educator" is a perfectly acceptable term that encompasses all the courses she taught, as well as being department head - without going into lengthy detail about it. — Maile (talk) 20:07, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe that solves the problem? Also wikified NACW, as I think that's better.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:23, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that academic Josephine Silone Yates (pictured) was also a chemist, journalist, poet and president of the National Association of Colored Women?
- "Academic"? Brigade Piron (talk) 09:22, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- Let's make that suggestion ALT3. The only difference between the original and ALT3 is "academic" instead of "educator". I am agreeable to this one if Mary Mark Ockerbloom is also. — Maile (talk) 14:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)