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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Jorge Luis Mendoza Cárdenas

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  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cuitláhuac García Jiménez
  • Comment: Alternate hooks are welcomed. I had a hard time coming up with one for this article because there isn't a lot of information about him (aside from two incidents: the murder case and the DEA reports). I think the hook is compliant with NPOV policy since it is a fact that the DEA is looking for him. There is no accussation about his alleged activities in the hook.

Moved to mainspace by MX (talk). Self-nominated at 16:32, 21 July 2018 (UTC).

  • New enough and long enough. Neutral and cites sources in-line, with no copyvios. I have a question about the usage of "Coup de grâce" to describe the murder victim's wounds--it seems the term is usually for the killing of someone who is already severely wounded, perhaps to shorten their suffering. But the reports of the murder (according to Google translate) described some of the wounds has gunshots to the head. I'm not sure if it's correct to describe a murder wound as a "coup de grâce" wound. Have you worked on other crime pages that used the term? I agree that finding a NPOV hook is difficult with the subject; the hook you composed is NPOV and I approve of it. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:00, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi Rachel Helps (BYU)! Thanks for the thorough review. This source uses the Spanish translation of coup de grâce: tiro de gracia. See the Google translation here. It seems like Google is pulling different translations when using the phrase independently and in a paragraph. I usually try to be very careful when using "coup de grâce" in an article. When classifying murders, the Mexican government considers deaths by coup de grâce as "organized crime" murders (which go on a different tally at the end of the year), as opposed to regular murder. Let me know if you have any questions. MX () 16:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
  • @MX: Before this can be promoted, we need a citation at the end of the sentence for the fact that he is known as "the Claw" and that the DEA is looking for him. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:29, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Replacing tick as per Rachel Helps' review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)