Template:Did you know nominations/Jokichi Ikarashi
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The result was: rejected by Allen3 talk 15:18, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Insufficient recent expansion
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Jokichi Ikarashi
[edit]- ... that 111-year-old Jokichi Ikarashi was Japan's oldest living man when he died?
Created by Futurist110 (talk). Self nominated at 05:28, 27 July 2013 (UTC).
- I have now reviewed this DYK? nomination -- Template:Did you know nominations/Oliver Haywood. Futurist110 (talk) 05:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- The article just barely passes the 1500 word count requirement. The DYK makes two claims: one is that he was 111 years old when he dies and the other being that he was Japan's oldest living man when he died. The source used to support both claims is in Japanese but a Google Translate version clearly supports the claims made. The only question I would have is, is the source reliable? The source, Hokkaido Shimbun has an article so I assume it's a reliable source unless someone finds otherwise. I don't feel that I can assess reliability since I don't speak Japanese. The only other question I would have is that of notability. I thought WP:ONEEVENT covered these sorts of things but even when I used to edit, it was usually argued on a case by case basis. WCS100 (talk) 20:47, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Reg Dean, Ralph Tarrant, Arturo Licata, and Emile Turlant all have their own Wikipedia articles due to the fact that each of them was/is the oldest living man of his countries at the time of his death. Igarashi was Japan's oldest living man at the time of his death, and he was older than all of these other men (at least for now). Futurist110 (talk) 04:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- You might want to make yourself familiar with WP:OTHERSTUFF if you haven't already. I'm not going to argue notability - if I wanted to be doing that, I'd be at AfD. I just felt compelled to bring that up because not only does being old not seem interesting to me, there are currently 195 other people who can make the same claim and that list just keeps on changing. I don't want DYK to be a list of people who lived a long time. WCS100 (talk) 12:04, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Reg Dean, Ralph Tarrant, Arturo Licata, and Emile Turlant all have their own Wikipedia articles due to the fact that each of them was/is the oldest living man of his countries at the time of his death. Igarashi was Japan's oldest living man at the time of his death, and he was older than all of these other men (at least for now). Futurist110 (talk) 04:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
More: The article is still classified as a stub. The line "At the time of his death, Ikarashi was the 46th oldest verified undisputed man ever." is uncited. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- I linked to another Wikipedia article for that sentence as my source. That said, I can remove this sentence, but I honestly don't think that removing it is really necessary. Futurist110 (talk) 04:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- A wikilink here is not enough. What if the linked article is inaccurate? Which is why, direct citing is best. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:15, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- I linked to another Wikipedia article for that sentence as my source. That said, I can remove this sentence, but I honestly don't think that removing it is really necessary. Futurist110 (talk) 04:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
After the removal of the "46th oldest" phrase by the nominator, the article was left with 1427 prose characters, which is insufficient for DYK; the article fails this basic requirement. Moreover, the article remains marked as a stub. It's been 20 days without any further edits; it's time to close this as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:50, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
