Template:Did you know nominations/John Rodgers (1772–1838)

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

John Rodgers (1772–1838)

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DYK that Commodore John Rodgers fired the first shot of the War of 1812 aboard the USS President while engaging HMS Belvidera?

Comment: Began rewriting article on Oct. 6, 2011. / DYK fact found in subsection 'War of 1812', 3rd paragraph, citation by authors J.F.Cooper, T.Roosevelt and C.O.Paullin

5x expanded by Gwillhickers (talk). Self nom at 09:41, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

The article is unfortunately too old for DYK, it should be nominated in the section for the day when the expansion started, rather than when it was completed. (Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK rules - 'a "new" article is no more than five days old' and 'articles in which the prose portion has been expanded fivefold or more within the past five days are also acceptable as "new" articles'. Benea (talk) 14:43, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Sometimes work/reading takes time, esp when you don't have a lot of it to do it all in one or two sittings. Don't know exactly when the 'five fold' point was reached, but the work was continuous. The rule almost seems self defeating because while writing my only intention was to build -- not to rush the article just to nominate it for DYK. Is there any discretion employed with this rule? Oh well, rulz'r'rulz. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:54, 19 October 2011 (UTC)