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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by The C of E (talk) 08:18, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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John Matthews (Upper Canada politician)

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  • ... that John Matthews was accused of leading a call for a theatre performance to play "Yankee Doodle" and "Hail, Columbia"? Source: "Various members of the assembly competed in calling for a Jacobite song, “Hail, Columbia!” and “Yankee Doodle.”...Three months later, however, he was officially apprised that Lord Dalhousie...had read in the newspapers that Matthews and others “had in a riotous and outrageous manner called for the national tunes and songs of the United States" [1]

5x expanded by Z1720 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:31, 27 June 2021 (UTC).

  • The nomination states this was 5x expanded, but DYK check says that's incorrect. From what I can see, the expansion was between this version and this one which represents an expansion from 1104 to 3951 characters of readable prose, i.e. 3.6x. I'll leave that to somebody who's more up on DYK technical details to confirm. The current length (3951 readable prose) is long enough.
  • On other issues, does not appear to have previously been in DYK or ITN. Both hooks are appropriately quoted, cited, formatted, and within the length limits, but I prefer ALT0 because it's pithier. I don't see any problems with WP:NPOV, WP:V or WP:BLP. Earwig finds some minor duplication which could easily be fixed by rephrasing. QPQ is done. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • @RoySmith: The version before I started editing the article is this one: [2]; it has 585 characters, or 101 words so I think it's within the 5x expansion. I reworked some of the paraphrasing, but most of it is the job title or name of a county, which cannot be changed. Z1720 (talk) 19:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • OK, I understand what I did wrong with the size calculation. You're good there. I also tweaked one bit of paraphrasing. Is "lieutenant governor of Upper Canada" an official job title? If so, it should be capitalized as "Lieutenant Governor of Upper Canada". If not, then it could be re-written as "Upper Canada's lieutenant governor". Similarly with "commissioners for forfeited estates". But, I'm nit-picking at this point. Given the clarification of the 5x question, this is good to go. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:52, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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