Template:Did you know nominations/James Balfour (died 1845)
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:18, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
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James Balfour (died 1845)
[edit]- ... that the Scottish nabob James Balfour was the grandfather of Arthur Balfour, Prime Minister of the UK from 1902 to 1905?
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... that the Scottish nabob James Balfour moved the village of Whittingehame on his Scottish estate? - ALT2:... that the Scottish nabob James Balfour made his fortune from a contract with the Victualling Commissioners to supply the Royal Navy in India?
- ALT3:... that the Scottish nabob and Tory politician James Balfour traced his descent in a direct line from King Robert II of Scotland?
- ALT4:... that in 1826 the Scottish nabob and Tory politician James Balfour was elected to Parliament with a total of 3 votes?
- ALT5:... that between 1815 and 1824 the Scottish nabob James Balfour bought 3 country estates?
- Reviewed: 26th South African Parliament
- ALT1:
Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nominated at 23:01, 21 June 2014 (UTC).
- The article is well-written, long enough, submitted within 7 days of its creation, and there are no indications of copyright violations. It needs better inline sourcing in the "Family and early life" section. The proposed hook is interesting, but there was not an inline source next to the claim and I didn't see a source for it. Of the alternate sources, ALT3 is sourced and interesting. I am One of Many (talk) 21:54, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- @I am One of Many:. Thanks for the review. I know that it is a rather longer article than is usually found at DYK, so thanks for taking the time to scrutinise it.
I have added a few refs. Do these changes resolve your concerns? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, now it looks good for inline sourcing and the first hook is sourced. I, too, have been nominating rather long articles, so think it is only fair if I review articles of comparable length. Good to go! I am One of Many (talk) 23:15, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- @I am One of Many:. Thanks for the review. I know that it is a rather longer article than is usually found at DYK, so thanks for taking the time to scrutinise it.
- A couple of comments on the alts - the source doesn't say he "moved" the village of Whittingehame, only that he built a new village to the NW of it; and the source for the 3-vote win (alt4) is a 1665 article which can't be correct. Gatoclass (talk) 05:12, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, there are issues with those alts, but the important thing is that the original hook is fine.I am One of Many (talk) 05:49, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it would be good to get the source fixed for alt4 because that would make a good quirky hook. Gatoclass (talk) 06:25, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Gatoclass, thanks for the eagle-eyed scrutiny.
- I couldn't see the referencing problem you mentioned for the for the 3-vote win, but when I checked more closely I found that I had screwed up the London Gazette links, which I have now fixed. Maybe it was one of those which you found?
Anyway, the source for the 3-vote win is Fisher (2009) (ref #20 in the current version), to which I have just added a further link. Does it look OK to you now? - I am unable to find the source I used for the assertion that the old village was replaced by the new one, so I have struck ALT1. Red face :(
- Sorry for the slow response this time. If anything else needs my attention, please coukd you {{ping}} me so that I get a notification? Thanks! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it would be good to get the source fixed for alt4 because that would make a good quirky hook. Gatoclass (talk) 06:25, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: - that looks fine now, so I have verified ALT4. I just added "a total of" to the hook in case people misinterpret the 3 votes as the margin of the win. Gatoclass (talk) 03:35, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Gatoclass. The tweak to ALT4 is a good clarification ... so now whoever processes this spoilt for choice with3 hooks in the running :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:26, 30 June 2014 (UTC)