Template:Did you know nominations/Jacqueline Coleman
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:08, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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Jacqueline Coleman
- ... that the lieutenant governor-elect of Kentucky, Jacqueline Coleman, is a basketball coach and the granddaughter of a National Basketball Association player? [1]
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of international goals scored by Hassan Maatouk
- Comment: Her grandfather wasn't a Hall of Famer or anything, so I think it's interesting her grandfather was in the NBA, but not so much so that you need to know his name?
Moved to mainspace by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 03:50, 7 November 2019 (UTC).
I'm claiming this for review and will try to finish it within the next few days, but for now I have a question. Are lieutenant governors of U.S. inherently notable? Having looked at the article, most of the coverage appears to be election-related as opposed to her activist career or even her previous election campaign. The hook is good and cited inline, so that should be fine at least. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:04, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, WP:NPOL says:
"Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or sub-national (e.g., province- or state-wide) office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. This also applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them."
Lt Gov is a state-wide office. She will get more coverage as Lt Gov than she did as a candidate, or before she was one. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:25, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Noted. The article meets DYK requirements, a QPQ has been provided, I didn't find any close paraphrase, and the hook is cited inline, interesting, and verified. However, I'm not very sure about the mention of Coleman's pregnancy: is it right to say "announced their pregnancy" instead of "announced her pregnancy"? In addition, the year of birth doesn't seem to be cited in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:55, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I don't think it's wrong? It's her husband's too, even though she's the one carrying it. I took out the year of birth, since I don't know where it came from or who put it in. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Perhaps it's just the form of English that's used where I live, but personally I've never heard of "pregnancy" referring to both parents before, usually when I hear news about "pregnancy" they specify that it's the woman (i.e. "announces pregnancy", "announces her pregnancy", but not "announces their pregnancy"). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:12, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I don't think it's wrong? It's her husband's too, even though she's the one carrying it. I took out the year of birth, since I don't know where it came from or who put it in. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Noted. The article meets DYK requirements, a QPQ has been provided, I didn't find any close paraphrase, and the hook is cited inline, interesting, and verified. However, I'm not very sure about the mention of Coleman's pregnancy: is it right to say "announced their pregnancy" instead of "announced her pregnancy"? In addition, the year of birth doesn't seem to be cited in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:55, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, WP:NPOL says:
- @Muboshgu: Once the "pregnancy" wording is addressed the nomination will be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:34, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I think this perhaps can be left to the discretion of the promoter, no? Anyway, Googling "announces their pregnancy" brings up a number of hits.[2] It's not wrong, though it may be an EngVar thing. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:35, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Upon giving this further thought, it's probably not ideal for that part to hold back the nomination as it's not even part of the hook, when the hook itself is fine and meets required. I did an informal survey on the matter on Discord and it seems that it could be an EngVar thing and it could be accepted in good faith, and it will be up to the promoter if that wording is still fine or not. As there are no further issues and the notability concern was clarified above, this is now good to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:34, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
