Template:Did you know nominations/Jack Geraghty

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 10:14, 15 March 2013 (UTC).

Jack Geraghty

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~~... that the Friendly Sons of St. Patrick named Jack Geraghty as the Irish Man of the Year and his daughter as the Irish Woman of the Year for Spokane, Washington's 2013 St. Patrick's Day parade?~~

ALT1*~~... that Jack Geraghty was the youngest County Commissioner elected in Spokane County, Washington at 29 years old?~~

ALT2*~~... that Jack Geraghty left his office as the youngest County Commissioner elected in Spokane County, Washington, to serve as the Director of Publications for the 1974 World's Fair?~~

Reviewed: not required as new DYK participant
Comment: his article has been expanded fivefold over the past couple of days. If possible, I would like to request that this article be held for March 16, 2013, the day of the St. Patrick's Day parade in Spokane.

Created/expanded by Cindamuse (talk). Self nominated at 07:14, 23 February 2013 (UTC).

5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, well-referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. I like the original hook for St. Patrick's Day, but the source does not say that Sheila is Jack's daughter. Footnote 2 identifies his daughter as "Sheila Leek", but the surname in footnote is "Sheila Geraghty". Do you have a reference to tie these loose ends together?
I notice that you also created the article James M. Geraghty 2 days before you nominated this page. How about a double hook? (Note: the hook reference should appear in both articles). Yoninah (talk) 17:11, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey there! Thanks for taking the time to review this article. Geraghty is Sheila's maiden name, which she uses professionally. Will this source [1] work to cite the differentiation in her surnames? I'm fairly new to submitting articles to DYK, so I'm honestly unfamiliar with "double hooks". What would we need to do? Just create another alternate hook, which is used in both articles? Cindy(talk to me) 17:50, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
I added another hook:
ALT3: ... that James M. Geraghty served as Spokane, Washington's City Attorney during the first decade of the 20th century, while his grandson, Jack Geraghty served as the mayor of the city during the last decade? Cindy(talk to me) 19:17, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that cite. The hook ref for the original hook is now verified and good to go. But DYK seems to favor double hooks, and your ALT3 will also work – except it's just over the 200-character limit. I suggest shortening it to:
ALT4: ... that James M. Geraghty served as Spokane, Washington's City Attorney during the first decade of the 20th century, while his grandson, Jack Geraghty, was Mayor of the city during the last decade?
It's your call. Do you want the March 16 hook, in which case you can make another nomination for James M. Geraghty, or do you want a double hook, to appear anytime? Yoninah (talk) 19:55, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

ALT4 works fine for me. What do you count in the number of characters? It's always puzzled me. I thought it started at the first word after "that" and ended at the questions mark. As far as adding it for March 16, with the double hook, I don't think it's necessary. I just thought the earlier hook about St. Pat's would be nice for the weekend. Cindy(talk to me) 20:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

To arrive at the character count, copy the whole hook beginning with "that", not including the question mark, into this cut and paste tool.
Both articles new enough, long enough, adequately sourced, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook ref verified and appears in both articles. No QPQ necessary for first-time nominator. I added a credit line for the James M. Geraghty article in the template. ALT4 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:16, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

This is actually my third DYK nomination. My previous ones were for Douglas W. Owsley and Washington: A Life. Thanks for all your help (and for the script)! Cindy(talk to me) 21:31, 13 March 2013 (UTC)