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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:31, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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It's Decorative Gourd Season, Motherfuckers

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Created by Guerillero (talk). Self-nominated at 06:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC).

  • I'll be delighted to review this for you @Guerillero: and I love the alt hook. Before I do the formal review, can I ask would you be happy for the alt hook to run on April Fools Day? I ask as I think it is very rich ground for it and you're more likely to get it run (I've had experience trying to get these sort of hooks done on other days before and it is a huge uphill struggle). Please let me know your preference. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:36, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
  • @The C of E: Yes! I would be happy to hold this for April Fools. Best of all, it will be decorative gourd season in Australia and New Zealand --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 17:11, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Date, length and hook all OK. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. Good to go for April Fools Day though @Guerillero: please make sure everything is in order because this will get an extra level of scrutiny because it contains a swear word. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 18:55, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Alt1 could run in the quirky slot any day of the year, and it would make more sense in Northern autumn than AFD. EEng 21:54, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
  • @EEng: If we could run this in September or October of 2020, it would be a dream. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 01:35, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately there’s a rule about not holding things for more than, um, 6 weeks or something. My advice is to leave it here, pretending you want it for AFD, then when AFD comes beg to hold it until autumn. That’s not very honest of me but it’s the best I can suggest. EEng 02:42, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
  • You said it yourself Guerillero, it is gourd season in the Southern Hemisphere so seems perfectly alright to me. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:23, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Too bad we can't call it It's Decorative Gourd Season in the Southern Hemisphere, Motherfuckers. That would be much funnier. EEng 09:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • C'est la vie --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 17:24, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote ALT1 for April Fools Day, but I honestly don't see what's April Foolsy about it. This really does need to run in the fall. Yoninah (talk) 20:04, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It feels like an april fools hook -- why? Because it has the word "fuck"? We already have one of those in the set. Yoninah (talk) 17:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I think this alt would work in the present season, but I'd like to note that the source calls it "an ode to autumn", not "shorthand for autumn". If you can't find another source, this will have to be changed in the article:
  • @Yoninah: I would like to run ALT1. Both EEng and The C of E seemed to think it is a fine hook and I think it is the most fun. Your alt sucks the life out of it. If you refuse to run it on AFD, then shelve it for September. But we are in the height of decorative gourd season in the southern hemisphere right now. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 13:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm requesting input from other editors at WT:DYK as to whether ALT1 is even appropriate as a hook. Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It has to be noted that special-occasion hooks have a relatively strict time limit of no more than six weeks from nomination, and that requirement is only rarely waived if there's good reason for it. Right now I don't see any reason why we should delay the hook for that long, and considering the nominator already said that the hook sounds good for Southern Hemisphere readers, then I don't see any problem with it running as a regular hook right now. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Guerillero, the ALT1 hook is the sort of thing you might be able to get away with for April Fools' Day, but not the rest of the year given its wording. The original (ALT0) hook could potentially run any time, as could ALT2 or some other hook. Or ALT0 could be modified to note that he was paid for the mug that was subsequently made, or that he thinks the notoriety has worked better for him than any payment might have. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Now that AFD is over and there is opposition to ALT1, can this nomination move ahead and perhaps a new hook be agreed on? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:55, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Calling on a new reviewer to check the original hook and ALT2. I have struck ALT1. Guerillero is certainly welcome to propose additional hooks if desired. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:16, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • It is easier to get a piece of featured content through review than it is to get a mildly interesting DYK hook that uses the word fuck. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @Guerillero: it was just a matter of timing. We already had a "fuck" hook in the April Fools set. Yoninah (talk) 18:22, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that the perennial essay, " It's Decorative Gourd Season, Motherf@ckers", is an ode to autumn? Carlson, Jen (2013-10-02). ""It's Decorative Gourd Season, M*therf*ckers" — Send Us Your Photos". Gothamist. Archived from the original on 2019-09-23. Retrieved 2020-01-11.
  • ALT3a: ... that the perennial essay, "It's Decorative Gourd Season, Motherfuckers", is an ode to autumn? name --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 19:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I verified the hook, struck Alt2 as unverifiable. I offer Alt 3 to the reviewer as an alternate. --evrik (talk) 19:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
    • I fixed the formatted and removed the unnecessarily censored version of the pieces's name --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 19:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


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