Template:Did you know nominations/Islander (band); Violence & Destruction

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:26, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Violence & Destruction, Islander (band)

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~~... that Islander on Violence & Destruction have "put together a really solid collection of songs 13 years or so after the genre {nu metal) died", according to Jesus Freak Hideout?~~

Created by AdditionSubtraction (talk). Self nominated at 11:27, 26 July 2014 (UTC).

I'll take this over the next few days. I've made extensive copy edits to the article for the album, but nothing that should disqualify me as a reviewer. Drmies (talk) 16:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
OK, I have some issues with this. After copyedits, and a lot of removal of verbiage, the band's article simply doesn't have enough left, at some 1200 characters. The author may disagree with my edits, but hey, they were necessary. Now, the article for the album is long enough, though there also extensive cuts had to be made (if only to that long laundry list of genres!). I got a few other, minor problems as well--of all the sources linked, there's only one (one and a half) that calls this "Christian" music. So I removed that genre from the album, and I wonder if it shouldn't be cut from the band article as well.
But that's by the by. In the meantime we need to figure out if this hook should be cut to a single-article hook, or if the band article is going to be beefed up with valid, verified content. And then, I don't like this hook at all: most of it is a quote, the brackets need fixing, and the phrasing is awkward. Can't we come up with something better? Drmies (talk) 01:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Drmies, You have done a tremendous job on those articles. So, I hope you keep up the same great work. Thank you!AdditionSubtraction (talk) 03:18, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that, according to Jesus Freak Hideout, thirteen years after the death of the genre, Islander, on Violence & Destruction, "put together a really solid collection of songs" of nu and rap metal? Drmies (talk) 01:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
So, the article is good to go, as far as I'm concerned: new enough, long enough, etc. But note that this is just the one article, for the album, not for the band. I proposed a new hook, but this needs to be reviewed by someone else, eh BlueMoonset? This hook is a bit less elegant and tight than I'd like, in part because the review speaks in the singular when referring to two genres. Another reviewer might come up with another hook. Drmies (talk) 01:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Reviewer needed for ALT1 hook (or can propose a new one); as Islander (band) does not qualify, it is being removed from consideration for DYK (link is no longer bold), this nomination is now only for Violence & Destruction. I've adjusted the DYK nompage links and DYKmake templates accordingly. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:02, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

If all that is required here is a review of the ALT1 hook, it passes. It is in the article and referenced with Ref 8 thusly in the source: Violence & Destruction isn't a perfect record, and is by no means the best nu-metal or rap metal material I've heard, but Islander has put together a really solid collection of songs 13 years or so after the genre died. — Maile (talk) 15:05, 5 September 2014 (UTC)