Template:Did you know nominations/Ida Tarbell

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:16, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Ida Tarbell

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Ida Tarbell in 1904

... that ...? Source: Ida Tarbell's investigative journalism into Standard Oil and John D. Rockefeller brought about "the dissolution of Standard Oil as a monopoly and lead to the Clayton Antitrust Act."
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: Ida Tarbell was one of the original muckrakers, a term given by Theodore Roosevelt.

Improved to Good Article status by Auldhouse (talk). Self-nominated at 21:00, 5 February 2019 (UTC).

@Auldhouse: Where's the hooks? No hooks have been proposed for this DYK nomination. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I will re-examine and get back with hooks. Auldhouse (talk) 19:03, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

If you are unable to propose a hook within the next three days, I will mark this for closure as stale. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 13:55, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Comment: Am I missing something here!? From above, looks like the nominator entered the hook and ALT1 hook, but inside small /small. What is missing is the information that connects the hooks to the appropriate references. For example, the article Ida Tarbell has "President Theodore Roosevelt gave Tarbell and her peers including Lincoln Steffens and Ray Stannard Baker the label, 'muckrakers.'" but without a reference. David notMD (talk) 21:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

As for the hooks themselves (assuming that the ones inside the small are supposed to be them), ALT1 is very bland and not accessible, ALT0 has potential but seems to be a bit too long and may need to be revised. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:20, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: How about:
ALT1a: ... that a series of articles by investigative journalist Ida Tarbell (pictured) in 1902 led to the dissolution of Standard Oil as a monopoly? Yoninah (talk) 19:27, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Article promoted to GA just a few days before the nomination, article requirements check out and I didn't find any close paraphrasing. Nominator has no prior DYK credits so no QPQ required. ALT1a proposed by another editor and is interesting and mentioned inline. However, although the fact is mentioned in the article and is sourced, the sentence that contains it does not have a footnote. @Yoninah and Auldhouse: This will be good to go once this issue is resolved. I think this would be a really good image hook for Women's Month. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

It appears that the cite is in the sentence after that. However, page numbers need to be added, which the nominator needs to do. I have added the image. Yoninah (talk) 11:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

The nominator hasn't edited since February 8. Yoninah (talk) 11:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah: Page numbers are optional right? What could simply be done is to add a footnote to the book itself and assume good faith for the source. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:12, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: looking at it again, the cite does have a page number, but that page isn't available online. I don't think there's a problem with the cite being in the next sentence; it does seem like a run-on thought. I think you can approve it now. Yoninah (talk) 22:05, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

I think we're good to go then now. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:37, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Yoninah (talk) 14:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)