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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:43, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Iacob Heraclid
[edit]- ... that before taking over Moldavia in 1561, Iacob Heraclid (pictured) had been executed in effigy and had staged his own death? The killing in effigy of a Greek man married to a "Gilette d'Andrieu" is mentioned by Felix Platter, quoted in Jurcoi, p. 54. Jurcoi himself and other historians he quotes agree that this is Hercalid, matching details with an account by Carolus Clusius. The feigning death part is also mentioned by several historians, for instance Kersterska Sergescu, p. 263: Laski fit répandre que Jacques L'Héraclide était mort subitement, et, pour donner plus valeur à ces bruits, il ordonna même un simulacre de funérailles. Tout le monde le crut et l'ont cessa de s'occuper de la question du prétendant disparu. ("Laski spread the rumor that Jacob the Heraclid had suddenly died and, to give more credence to this rumors, he even ordered a mock funeral. Everyone believed it and people stopped caring about the issue of the vanished pretender.").
- ALT1:... that in 1561 Iacob Heraclid (pictured) conquered Moldavia with the help of arquebuses, which most Moldavians "had never before even seen"? Fassel & Chițanu, pp. 335–336, quoting Johann Sommer: Moldovenii nu au ținut piept nici primului atac al dușmanilor: caii lor au luat-o la goană cu o iuțeală nespusă trăgînd cu ei și pe călăreți chiar fără voia lor ... Cei mai mulți dintre ei nici nu văzuseră bombarde de acelea de mînă și de aceea nici ei și nici caii lor nu le pot auzi fără cea mai mare tulburare. ("The Moldavians could not handle even the first attack on them: their horses proceeded to scatter with unbelievable speed, dragging along their riders, often even as the latter tried to resist ... Most of them had never before even seen those handheld bombards, and so they and their horses could catch sound of them without the greatest distress.")
- ALT2:... that Iacob Heraclid, a Protestant who ruled over Orthodox Moldavia, is commemorated in Malta as "Basilicus the Maltese" (attributed portrait pictured)? This is basically a summary of Pippidi and the relevant paragraph in the section "Folkloric and literary memory".
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5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 13:43, 15 March 2018 (UTC).
- Substantial article on an nteresting life, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. - Both images are licensed, I'd prefer the lighter coin, and the first hook, as the most unusual.
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- why Despot in quotaion marks?
- please fix "described by Romanian scholar Andrei Pippidi as an "ingenious charlatan" and "professional impostor"." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Well, I put quotation marks at that point in the narrative to indicate to the reader that this became his name only during the latter part of his life -- he was Heraclide, Basilico, Marchet and whatnot before that. I think I've fixed the other issue, there was an extra comma -- right? Dahn (talk) 13:37, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 23 March 2018 (UTC)