Template:Did you know nominations/Howard Marks

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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 12:15, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Howard Marks

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... that international cannabis smuggler Howard Marks (pictured) took upon the alias of "Mr. Nice" after he bought a passport from convicted murderer Donald Nice?
... that international cannabis smuggler Howard Marks (pictured) was found 'Not Guilty' of a £15 million smuggling operation after convincing the jury that he was working as a spy for MI6?

Created/expanded by EchetusXe (talk). Self nom at 12:00, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

All but the first paragraph in the Life after release section need to be cited, at the moment they contain no references. Also, the article doesn't meet the 5x expansion required. Before the current expansion it was at 4207 characters, now it is at 19182. In order to be a 5x expansion, it actually needs to be 21035, so a little under 2000 characters off still. Miyagawa (talk) 10:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Found a reference for that line. As for the expansion I removed most of the original article during the expansion as it contained a lot of recent trivia, so the actual expansion most likely meets the requirement if that is taken into account.--Echetus Xe 14:04, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately the previous article size is taken into consideration no matter how bad the quality of it was. The only exceptions are copyviolations. Miyagawa (talk) 14:28, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Right, well I don't how things work at DYK so I'll leave this up to you.--Echetus Xe 14:56, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to boldly declare that this one passes the 5x expansion threshold. This is a BLP, and although the previous version contained a few references, for all intents and purposes the article content was unsourced. However, most of the "Life after release" section of the article (which is content that came from the pre-existing article) is still unsourced. That needs to be fixed before this goes to DYK. I verified the hook fact for the first hook, but I did not check the second one. --Orlady (talk) 17:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I added a bunch of references to that section. Probably meets the 5x expansion rule anyway now.--Echetus Xe 09:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

If it's a BLP, isn't a 2x expansion enough? Yoninah (talk) 21:52, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks good enough now. Both hooks are verified. --Orlady (talk) 02:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)