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- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:54, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Hotel Polen fire, Ania Bien
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- ... that the Hotel Polen in Amsterdam was the subject of a photographic installation by Ania Bien, which was inspired by the disastrous fire that destroyed it and killed 33 people?
Hotel Polen fire created/expanded by User:SpeakFree (talk), User:LadyofShalott (talk), User:Drmies (talk), User:Cullen328 (talk);
Ania Bien by LadyofShalott, Drmies, Cullen328. Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 05:04, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hotel Polen fire properly indicates foreign language citations, while Ania Bien does not. Please adjust citations, especially the one for this hook from the Jewish Historical Museum.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:58, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Both articles pass date and length.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:58, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- The Brooklynrail ref does not support the term "inspired by the fire". I think it would be more appropriate to say inspired by the Holocaust and use the fire link in another way.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:58, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- The article says "For "Hotel Polen" (1986), Bien fabricated eighteen replicas of the Hotel Polen’s (a 1930s-style hotel in Amsterdam that burned to the ground in 1977) menu stands, placed enlargements of photographs in them, and installed them in a closed circle in the gallery. The images all alluded to the Holocaust in one way or another". It doesn't literally say "inspired by the fire" but that might be be concluded from the text. Hotel Polen is directly named, it can't refer to something else. It should say something like "referring the fire" which is more factual. Edit: Fixed this issue as well. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 02:08, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
- I sort of disagree, but not strongly. I await a third party opinion.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- What do you find objectional about the article as it is now? SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 08:15, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- The objection is with the hook.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 11:58, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- What do you find objectional about the article as it is now? SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 08:15, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- I sort of disagree, but not strongly. I await a third party opinion.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
- The article says "For "Hotel Polen" (1986), Bien fabricated eighteen replicas of the Hotel Polen’s (a 1930s-style hotel in Amsterdam that burned to the ground in 1977) menu stands, placed enlargements of photographs in them, and installed them in a closed circle in the gallery. The images all alluded to the Holocaust in one way or another". It doesn't literally say "inspired by the fire" but that might be be concluded from the text. Hotel Polen is directly named, it can't refer to something else. It should say something like "referring the fire" which is more factual. Edit: Fixed this issue as well. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 02:08, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
BTW, I've added SpeakFree to the Ania Bien nomination given all their valuable work on the article. Thanks Tony, Drmies (talk) 16:26, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Note: I've tweaked the ALT2 hook as "fire" is a very short word and thus the link might get overlooked easily. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 00:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 is good to go. TonyTheTiger 01:29, 19 December 2011 (UTC)