Template:Did you know nominations/Herman Sarens Soediro
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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 01:12, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
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Herman Sarens Soediro
- ... that in 2010, the Indonesian National Armed Forces put a retired brigadier general on military tribunal over a land dispute? Source: Entire second paragraph of "Later life", use either [1] or [2]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Janaki Ballabh
- Comment: This man has a lot of hearsay about his shenanigans, but unfortunately hearsay isn't WP:RS
Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 05:02, 13 January 2023 (UTC).
No issues with copyright, QPQ is done, the article is long enough, it's been recently expanded 5x, and the hook is verified (at least according to Google Translate, as I am unfortunately not fluent in Indonesian). My only concern would be the fact that he's not mentioned by name in the hook, which while certainly not necessary, is generally customary. Share your thoughts on this, and then I'd be happy to pass it. An anonymous username, not my real name 17:00, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- @An anonymous username, not my real name: In the context of the hook, replacing his name there I think reduces the impact. If we add the name ("Herman Sarens Soediro, a retired brigadier general") it becomes a bit clunky and awkward, while if we replace the name the context disappears (the hook is interesting because the military tried a retired general, but from just the name readers won't know who Herman is and why him being tried is "special"). Juxlos (talk) 17:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think they're both acceptable styles; I generally prefer mentioning people by name myself, but i see not reason not to retain the author's wishes. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:42, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- A ping to An anonymous username, not my real name as well. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:43, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- If that's how the author would prefer, then
. Forgive me for taking some time; I haven't been very active lately. An anonymous username, not my real name 04:02, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- If that's how the author would prefer, then
- @An anonymous username, not my real name: In the context of the hook, replacing his name there I think reduces the impact. If we add the name ("Herman Sarens Soediro, a retired brigadier general") it becomes a bit clunky and awkward, while if we replace the name the context disappears (the hook is interesting because the military tried a retired general, but from just the name readers won't know who Herman is and why him being tried is "special"). Juxlos (talk) 17:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
